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The script should never have made it to production - too many bad ideas

posted 8 years ago by coolslowhand
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Flint Marko - they want to make him sympathetic with this crap about how he will "steal to help his daughter" (as opposed to just trying to get her into St Jude, etc.) How Spiderman is a bully and tries to murder him, and he wakes up and talks about his daughter, etc..... Meanwhile, they show a scene where he murders an old man in cold blood - while another criminal begs him not to. hahaha. And Spiderman forgives him at the end...

This doesn't make any sense at all. He murders an old man in cold blood (SM's uncle) and now, to help his daughter, he isn't working 80 hours a week, but he is violently committing robberies. It makes no sense why anyone with any concept of reality would see him as sympathetic. It just comes across as awkward to most of the audience, and a few easy changes could have created a completely different mood.

Eddie Brock - Eddie begs Peter not to "expose" him, and Peter, in his black suit, is "cruel" to Brock by exposing him (or this is what we are supposed to think) The thing is ---Brock, as a journalist, had just fraudulently framed spiderman for a crime he did not commit. That's kind of a big deal, no photographer/journalist would let that slide, the black suit has nothing to do with that decision. (it did with the camera break maybe, but not here)

Mary Jane Saga - The only time I saw something more awkward in a superhero movie was the dreadful superman returns where louis lane has left superman and he is listening in on her conversations. S2 was the classic superhero love story, this was beyond terrible. There are a couple of classic arcs - (1) love interest doesn't know superheros identity; and (2) being married to superhero is like being married to a cop. What we had here, however, was just awkward. A woman is dating a superhero and is having eggs with her ex boyfriend..... ok....

Black Suit Peter -

[–] jmac7106 8 years ago

I just yelled at mary jane. Just tell him you dumb bitch.

[–] bill-mcdermott 8 years ago

Apparently there wasn't a script

[–] Xaeden 8 years ago

He murders an old man in cold blood (SM's uncle)

It was revealed at the end that he didn't kill Ben in cold blood. Rather, the gun went off accidentally when he turned to look at his partner. Marko was both visually shocked and upset and ignored his partner's call to get in the car because of it.

he isn't working 80 hours a week, but he is violently committing robberies.

He just escaped from prison and was on the run from the police. How was he going to get an 80 hour a week job, let alone any job? I'm not at all trying to suggest he is immune from criticism but the basis of your criticism is that he didn't do something that was impossible in his situation.

[–] GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 8 years ago

He just escaped from prison and was on the run from the police. How was he going to get an 80 hour a week job, let alone any job? I'm not at all trying to suggest he is immune from criticism but the basis of your criticism is that he didn't do something that was impossible in his situation.

I think he was talking about the fact he was robbing people instead of getting a job to pay for his daughter's medical expenses. Honestly if he never had a good job to begin with he shouldn't have pursued having a girlfriend/wife. Much less have a child. Also the premise is ridiculous since $3,000 (which was really $2,900 since Peter was given $100 for his prize) is not enough to do any kind of procedure that could save his daughter without insurance which he certainly didn't have.

Green Goblin is great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1L4ZuaVvaw

[–] Xaeden 8 years ago

Also the premise is ridiculous since $3,000 (which was really $2,900 since Peter was given $100 for his prize) is not enough to do any kind of procedure that could save his daughter without insurance which he certainly didn't have.

A) The guy had no intention of paying out $3,000 so I seriously doubt that the money he had on his desk was that exact amount as that would mean he had the money out, waiting to pay whoever won. More likely he was counting his overall money for the night or whatever and thus it's more than you think.

B) Nevertheless, he would also have to split the money with his partner so I'm sure it wasn't enough to cover the daughter's medical expenses but so what? I would assume the plan was to perform a string of robberies since it would be difficult for someone in his position to get everything he needed from one source. The first thing he did when he got powers was to go after a source that netted him multiple bank bags worth of cash but if he and his partner tried hitting such a high value target they'd be dead (or surely caught). Thus, when you have almost certain death/capture on the one hand and a possible path to success via a string of smaller robberies on the other, I fail to see how the latter is not the smarter option.

[–] Mhjm6 8 years ago

Let's see your imaginary script, Internet nobody.

[–] AndrewGS 8 years ago

Yeah, trying to make the viewers feel sorry for the Sandman and even having Spider-Man forgive him really didn't work. Him as the freaking killer of Uncle Ben, then claiming it was an accident, sort of, to be forgiven, ugh.

I don't know what the filmmakers were trying to do with Eddie, I don't think they were trying to show Peter as cruel for exposing him even though it happened during the bad side montage.

[–] lanakael2 8 years ago

The whole Eddie being exposed thing--I think they tied it in with "dark Peter" because "normal Peter" as we know him is quiet, unassuming, even timid in some cases. Chances are he might not have ratted on Eddie, not at first, anyway unless it had become a recurring issue.