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Charlie didn't know Stanley defended Mikey!

posted 12 years ago by cinemama745
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Although the audience knew Fletcher ordered the flogging, Charlie didn't know that. Wouldn't he have assumed the Captain reneged on their arrangement? Nobody told Charlie, "the Capt. actually tried to defend your brother."

Charlie's last-minute rescue of the Capt. and his wife seemed appropriate to the audience but only if Charlie knew the Capt. tried to defend Mikey.

By the way, (to those who were tired) y'all got the bit about the Captain's wife getting pregnant through the rape and delivering the spirit of the murdered fetus. Her dream made that clear.

Was I sleeping regarding Charlies POV?

[–] churchr-1 12 years ago

I think Charlie would have assumed that Stanley would have been good to his word, which would mean not flogging him to where he'd pretty much had to die.
But I'm not sure if it mattered. The Captain told him why he wanted his brother stopped and Charlie reached the point where he agreed and couldn't stomach any more killing and raping.

[–] McNools 12 years ago

I'm a few months late, but I took it Charlie didn't care much about the Captain anymore, he just wanted to stop his brother, also, by saving the captain he might have saved himself a bit too I suppose (since the captain could put in a good word for him etc.)

(if the captain survives that is, he didn't look too healthy there in the end)

[–] Hancock_the_Superb 12 years ago

I think Charlie was more disgusted by Arthur's behavior than saving the Stanleys out of gratitude. There's always the possibility that Mikey told him off-screen, though there's nothing to indicate as much.

"What's the matter rednecks? Progress got you down?"

[–] Fedorevsky 11 years ago

I would have prefered if the Capt's wife had actually reached for the gun and Charlie shot her dead in self defense before going out to sit by Arthur. She deserved to die just as much as the others who were killed. She was very much responsible for Mikey's death along with the other townspeople.

Hidyho!

[–] trapdoorstudios 10 years ago

The way I understood it was that at the start of the film the rape and murder of the Hancock lady had caused Charlie to be sick and tired of the ways of his brother and the gang... There is no evidence that either Charlie or Mikey took part in it, although they were there and so didn't stop it.

There is a scene later int he film where Arthur asks Charlie 'Why can you never stop me in time'... suggesting that Charlie has repremanded Arthur or that he has allowed things to happen like this before.

At the end of the film Mikey has died, I personally felt that Charlie blamed his brother directly for this. Mikey didn't appear to be someone who would hurt anybody, in the opening gun fight he doesn't even draw a gun... so Charlie decides that it's time to stop his brother.

He doesn't want to stand by whilst someone else is raped or killed. Regardless of who it is.

I don't think it mattered to him that it was the Captain or that the captain had tried to save Mikey, I took it as Charlie decided enough was enough and put an end to his murderous brother.

[–] spookyrat1 10 years ago

I took it as Charlie decided enough was enough and put an end to his murderous brother.

I saw it the same way.🐭

[–] johnthedoe 10 years ago

Aye, he even said "no more"