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oh it's another one of those movies

posted 12 years ago by zachanscom
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where the good guy is so damn righteous and courageous that he waits till the very end of all the rape and pillaging to take a stand and puts a stop to it.

i guess this is the mentality of those who cannot think preemptively.

and always intrinsic to this type of story is the utter incompetence of the representatives of civilized society. because in order for the belated heroic act, everyone else must be stupid and weak to allow the bad guys, in this case 2 or 3 paltry bandits, to wreak havoc.

like dances with wolves, this film indulges in unrealistic social behaviors and interactions. the most realistic character might be the elder brother, whose brutality is remarkably kept in checked considering the abundance of defenseless weaklings stood in his path.

[–] Indifferent_Observer 12 years ago

I don't know maybe because it was his brother and he didn't want to kill him..?

Just a guess, but I'm glad we have pretentious moronic armchair experts like yourself to tell us idiots whats realistic and whats not back in time when neither of us were alive. Thanks so much for such an utterly useless opinion on something you absolutely know nothing about.

Maybe you should stick to PG family films with happy endings.

[–] The-ManWithNoName 12 years ago

@ Dirty....

I was going to respond.....but you fvking nailed it.
Well said.

This guy is a wannabe critic, but you can tell he doesn't know sh!t about film. He's just a hater.

You're not a writer Fink, you're a goddamn write off

[–] smahman 12 years ago

Dirty - have a cigar.

[–] garyfrost510 12 years ago

zach, you grossly misunderstand Charlie, the character you call the "good guy." Until the very end of the film, he's not at all good because he's been a professional criminal who participated in multiple murders and probably rape. At best he partially redeems himself in this story by protecting his feeble-minded brother Mikey and abandoning his older brother Arthur.

Deciding to defend the Stanleys in the scene you mention represented a moral transformation for him. Charlie had made a bargain with Stanley purely out of self-interest and protective feelings toward Mikey. When he discovered that Mikey had been flogged so seriously that he eventually died, Charlie had every reason to suspect that Stanley had reneged on the bargain. For that reason the old Charlie would have felt justified in raping Martha and killing her and her husband. But once the attack began, Charlie apparently needed a few minutes to realize what normal people know; namely that it's wrong to harm innocent people. Coming to that realization, however, cannot be easy because, as another poster has said, he also didn't want to harm his brother.

In the end, Charlie still probably hasn't done enough to atone for his sins.