Portrayal of English


"a firm hand is the only thing an African understands" then Nicholas' reply of "bloody English" ugh, it is so irritating the way in films English people are stereotyped as being in some sort of 18th century time warp. Then there's when the Englishman says "It's nice to have another Englishman around" and to the reponse "I'm a Scotsman" just looks at him as if he's never heard of Scotland before. What the hell?

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I guess they felt the need to balance out the number of African antagonists with a stereotypical English/white one.

When darkness overcomes the heart, Lil' Slugger appears...

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because thats the way the english are, andy murray was called "an english tennis superstar" then had to correct them that he was scottish.

nobody likes you limeys, and its your own fault.

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And you're not prejudiced at all. :p

It's not the way all English people are, it's the way we're all presented because of our history. It's not the fault of people living in England today. For this day and age it's unrealistic.

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Ah but Laura it's not how we're presented because of our history. It's how we're presented because it helps people like the previous poster to feel better about themselves.

The truth is it's a lot like the character of Garrigan. He feels superior by taking the moral high ground and dismissing the English as wankers. But in the end, the moral high ground is not where he'd like to think it is and he is the wanker.

"Football in the groin, football in the groin"

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lol, shut up limey, nobody likes you

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So by your use of the phrase 'limey' I take it you're not actually Irish! An American talking about issues they don't understand eh?

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lol.

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Scots tend to be ethnocentric and differentiate themselves from English; as they should since they have a distinct culture and history, they just happen to share an island with the English and Welsh. The scene kind of reminded me of how I felt when I moved from Jersey to the south and I'd meet a New Yorker and they'd jibe with me like we're from the same place. But, deep down I knew if we were back in the tristate they'd spit and die before being culturally-associated with Jersey. I felt the same kind of snide annoyance that Nicolas felt when they'd "relate" to me.

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That scene was not realistic at all. No Englishman would fail to recognise he was Scottish and go on to call him an Englishman.

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That scene was not realistic at all. No Englishman would fail to recognise he was Scottish and go on to call him an Englishman.


Agreed, I cringed at that scene, if this was set in the 1870s, then sure, I could understand that since 'English' or 'England' were often used by British people from whatever area of Britain as a general term for 'Britain', but in the 1970s? No way, it didn't feel right at all and felt deliberately inserted as a kind of uber nationalist idea of what the English are like (as if you can actually stereotype an entire people of tens of millions as behaving in a certain way), no way would he have called McAvoy's character an "Englishman", without a doubt he would have called him a fellow "Brit" or "Briton".

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