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The parents guide is wrong! Graphic Nudity - Where?


All I saw was some topless women, some shadows and a very thick pubis obscuring any genitalia. What is the IMDB like?
Otherwise a very good and throught provoking film.

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when ava is taking body parts she is literally butt naked

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But no genitals! Nothing graphic and no vulva!

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You lonesome for genital views? Strip and look in the mirror!

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If you read the post it's about the parents guide being wrong!

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Oh I read your post and also your posts on other boards, you are just acting like an idiot and seeking attention. You'll grow up some day! We can hope.

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Can't you post something relevant please

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No, it's time for ladies to stop shaving. It's healthier and far more comfortable.
Don't free the vulva, save the pubes!

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The parents guide is always over sensitive. Sometimes it says things like "a man is seen topless, briefly, from behind."

As if a kid would be distressed by that.

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The OP was just being an idiot. "Graphic nudity" has come to mean full frontal and this movie has that. It is just information, it isn't judging whether it is good or bad, it just allows people to make more informed decisions before they take the time, possibly pay the money, to see a movie. If a person is offended by nudity then that is their choice, none of us should judge their decision, and they should not judge those who choose to see a movie with nudity in it. Information is just information, it isn't inherently good or bad.

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I think you are away with the fairies if you think this film has graphic nudity.
The information should be factual in every respect so that people can make a judgement.



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Yes, "graphic nudity" is MPAA speak for mild ordinary nudity. No genitals needed.
Yes, its ridiculous that the MPAA considers nudity too terrible for children, but violence OK.

This is why Broken Flowers, for example, gets an R-rating in the US, but a PG in Canada. Plenty of Americans are happy to ignore the MPAA.

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What's worse is that a penis is now 15 and any merkin gets an R , very strange???

What's wrong with the world when violence is considered ok over non sexual nudity. They need their heads examining.

Broken Flowers is a lovely film and Alexis Dziena's head didn't explode when she showed her vulva! Natural nudity no merkin, not dark, no cgi, etc etc , I wish it was like that now.

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Ah yes, Ava's mons pubis. Her pubic mound. Or did you mean to say her pudendum? The terminology is always tricky. Is it her pudenda, or her pudendum? Is it female genitalia, or female genitals? Both are plural!

At any rate, in the scene which you are referring, it's true that Ava's is covered in pubic hair. However, was it really "thick" in your estimation? Personally, I would describe it as "moderate". She was neat, clean, tidy, kempt, fresh, and well-trimmed. In this regard, I found absolutely nothing offensive in its display and would have to disagree with any parental guide claiming otherwise.

Furthermore, I thought the exhibition of Ava's bare buttocks was also respectfully done. Clearly there were many ways it could have gone wrong. For instance, the shot could have been filmed from squarely behind. In that case, it could have been possible that her dangling labia could have been seen from between the gap. As it were, the director wisely shot it from a slight angle, thereby ensuring only her round cheeks and the modest crack in between them were visible. Just as importantly, note that the cheeks of her buttocks were closed. A less experienced director might have missed this detail and not taken the care to ask the actress that they not be relaxed and open. Had that been the case, then perhaps a parental ratings guide might have had a legitimate grievance. However, given the way the scene was shot, they do not. As you can see, the director was navigating a minefield and succeeded with flying colors.

Finally, while Ava was admiring her naked breasts in front of the mirror, what was offensive about the way she was doing it? Yes, she was standing there fully nude without a shred of clothing. But was she, for instance, jiggling her breasts? Was she handling her breasts? No, she wasn't. She was simply admiring them and the rest of her naked body from a purely visual standpoint, and the viewers asked to join in.

So I must agree with you, CookieMonsterV, that the warnings by any parental ratings guide about the inappropriateness of any scenes in this movie are without merit. Graphic nudity? Hardly! If anything, I would say this was family friendly nudity, perhaps even wholesome nudity!


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It's a bit weird to talk about 'nudity', when we're talking about a ROBOT, a MACHINE, that isn't even there!

Also, I hate (and wonder) how the word 'graphic' can mean 'graphics', as in 'graphic artist', but also something 'gross'. How the heck do these words come about, when the same word can refer to two completely different concepts?

In any case, nudity vs. 'graphic nudity' is probably a legalese thing, but still kind of weird. I bet the most stuck-up cencors couldn't differentiate those two otherwise, or point out to a picture of nudity that's not graphic, and one that is, and explain why that is.

I would just assume 'graphic nudity' would mean either a male erection higher than 45 degrees (why is this world full of such prudishness when all the 'gay pride' crap is at the same time shoved upon everyone's faces?), or *gasp* visual of female genitalia, that has been easy to access in about 5 seconds by almost anyone with an internet connection.. It's hard to imagine there being people in the world that haven't seen at least pictures (and also videos) of female genitalia in various forms already.

I mean, who are these censors protecting anyway?

Is it really that grotesque to be able to see the very tunnel entrance YOU YOURSELF just came out of?

Is seeing a biological stick standing up going to be completely and utterly traumatizing, because it might have some shape and color? I mean, I don' treally get how this is supposed to work, where you can see people murdered with blood spilling everywhere and no one bats an eye, but if one public hair finds its way near a camera lens, the world flips its breakfast table!

Also, how is a visual of a body part going to traumatize anyone of ANY age, but the James Bond scene that doesn't even SHOW ANYTHING with the dogs chasing the woman (was it Goldfinger?) is perfectly non-traumatizing? (Heck, I almost got traumatized by that and my physical eyes are old and that scene doesn't even show anything!)

Hypocrisy..

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I really don't understand the hypocrisy about 'soft caress of a body part' being the ultimate evil to witness, while bombs exploding buildings, people being murdered in gruesome ways with guts and blood spurting everywhere while people scream is just fine and dandy. I don't get it..

In any case, talking about 'nudity' when we're talking about a damn ROBOT, is like talking about how seductive and vile some coffee makers and laundry machines are. What nudity? MACHINE PARTS ARE NOT NUDITY!

That's another similar hypocrisy I can't understand. Why say there's nudity, when there are only machine parts shown? Machine parts are not people, so there can't be nudity more than in an old western that shows horses completely naked.

Of course they might be talking about Caleb's nudity or something, but usually 'graphic nudity' doesn't refer to males, unless the 45-degree rule is broken or something.

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