Directors cut?


Ok, I'm just a little bit confused.
I just watched this movie, and I read a few topics here, a lots about wolfes and things like that but I must say... there were no wolfes in the movie. Not a single one. And Gere was not attacked in Danes' house.
I guess they made a second cut of this movie. I read lots of bad comments how awful this movie was, and now I think all of them refers to the original cut.
The version I saw was quite good, altough the ending was like se7en for dummies.

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You are correct. The director was fired from the project. The producers completed the first cut that was released overseas and that has been discussed on this board (the one with the wolves, etc.) The producers then commissioned a second cut which was released in the U.S. today. This is the one you evidently saw.

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Needless to say, there is no director's cut as the director was fired before any cut was finished.

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Thanks for the information.

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Funny how they used a shot of Gere's character being attacked by a wolf on the back of the DVD case for the US release even though the scene was not included in the U.S. cut.

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Wolves? Not in the version I saw. It would be interesting to see the other version. I can't figure out how they managed to cram a frickin wolf into this story.



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Well I just watched it and to try and ill try and explain the wolf. Just explain its presence and scene not the significance of a wolf, because their isn't any. The wolf was owned by the guy who we find taking the pictures in the fetish house. We see Clair in the hallway and wolf passes her by. When the guy is running from the fetish house he throws a trash can at richards car, breaking the windsheild, he then runs to his own car, whistles or yells and the wolf (not actually a wolf, but i dont konw dogs) jumps into the bed of the car/pick up.
Later when Gere falls asleep at clair's house, clair wakes up to find the wolf at her bed about to attack, she screams richard runs in attacks the wolf, and the wolf proceeds to bite the hell out of his arm. Richard shoots at the dog, manages to miss (although the dog is still attached to his arm when he shoots). Now before anyone comments about how hard it might be to shoot something while it is tearing flesh from bone off your arm, im just saying the guy missed. The dog runs out the front door which you see is open, (you have to assume it was lockpicked). It runs outside and jumps onto the same car/pickup as the fetish house and is driven off by someone. Then clair bandages richards arm, have a momment. Thats i believe the end of the whole wolf story i dont think it comes up again. Come to think about it, i dont think clair ever mentions during the chase oh hows your arm, and i dont think richard ever has to overcome the pain to use the arm again. But whatever, interesting to know they picked a different director. I wonder what the directors significance to the wolf was, i was just thinking it would be the wolf and flock of sheep thing. But that might b e a bit to obvious. ok im rambling, goodnight.

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Just watched a screener of the version being released in the UK and it has the so-called wolf scene.

It's not a wolf. It's a dog which the owner calls Wolf.

In between the two scenes mentioned in the previous, you get a scene with the killers arguing and Viola tells the photographer to go and sort out Babbage. Babbage falls asleep on the couch in Claire Danes's apartment. The photographer breaks into the apartment and unleashes Wolf to attack Babbage.

What makes the scene slightly surreal is that this is interpersed with a nightmare that Danes is having about her trip through the S&M warehouse. She dreams she is being chased by the dog and then wakes to find Babbage being attacked.

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Just to confirm that the UK release DVD, on High Fliers, is the directors cut (or at least a cut approved by Wai-keung Lau before the studio took him off the film) with a 101 minute running time. This isn't listed as a variant in the running times on the main IMDb page for this film.

This isn't highlighted anywhere on the box, presumably because high Fliers had no idea that they had a different cut.

I've not seen the studio cut yet, but when I get round to it I'll post on the differences unless someone out there gets around to it first.

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All this is really interesting. I just saw the film in a movie theater in Mexico City. This is not exactly my kind of film, but you could see the hand of Andrew Lau as a real filmmaker-- the film went some very dark places. I guess I saw the earlier cut since the wolf-dog is in it. But the lighting-cinetmatography was terrible and was very distracting. Can this be explained somehow by the fact that it was an early cut. Was something missing in the processing of the film which would have caused this?

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That's because he wasn't in it before. I looked again after reading the differences in the film. I see the other version on sale for very cheap online and I'm really thinking about purchasing it just out of curiosity.

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Well, 101' would be what you get when you apply the atrocious process called PAL speed-up to the 105' version (to which EVERY European DVD was subjected – only the BD format has recently done away with that).

So, can someone confirm that, or are there actually three versions of that film out there? (but then, either the 101' version couldn't have been a PAL release or the 105' figure has the PAL speed-up already factored in, so that that one in its original form clocks in at somewhere between 109' and 110')


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