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Where did Angier get his bottemless pit of money?


Was it ever explained?

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He was a British Lord. He only took a fake name in order not to embarrass his family with his hobby as a stage magician.

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Oh my god! They killed Angier!
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He was brittish? I thought they mentioned at some point he was an american? Jackman put on an american accent for the movie.

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He was faking an American accent most of time but reverted to British when revealed that he was Lord Caldlow. Check also his dialogue with Julia right after watching Chinese magician's trick.

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I hadn't noticed it upon first viewing either, but in retrospect the clues are all there:

When Angier is discussing with Julia the secret of Chung Ling Soo's trick:

Angier: He must be strong as an ox. He's been pretending to be a cripple for years. Any time he's in public, any time he goes out. It's unthinkable. Borden saw it at once. But I couldn't fathom it: living my whole life pretending to be someone else.

Julia: You are pretending.

Angier: I don't think changing a name compares.

Julia: Not your name. Who you are and where you're from.

Angier: I promised I wouldn't embarrass my family with my theatrical endeavors.

Julia: I thought of a name for you: The Great Danton.
Angier: [CHUCKLES]

Julia: Do you like it? But it's sophisticated.

Angier: It's French.
This clearly hints that Angier had changed his identity and had reinvented his background, in order to not be linked to British nobility.

And please correct me if I'm wrong, but especially in the late 19th century, I'd say it's more in character for a proud upper-class English nobleman than for an adventurous American fortune seeker to scoff at a French stagename; so I think the line "It's French." can be considered too as somewhat revealing Angier's true identity.


When Lord Caldlow visits Borden in prison:
Borden: You must be Lord Coldlow?

[Borden is shocked when he realizes that he is staring into Angier's face.]

Angier: Caldlow. Yes, I am. I always have been.
There you have it: Angier had always been a British lord.


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He was a British lord pretending to be an American (he may have chosen that ruse since his wife was American). When his wife suggests he adopt the name "The Great Danton" he balks a bit at taking a French identity. That would have been a more likely reaction for an English aristocrat at the time than an American.


Unless Alpert's covered in bacon grease, I don't think Hugo can track anything.

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Also when he shoots his other self after the first time he used the machine, the duplicate that was about to be shot, in his desperation, seemed to have shouted in his natural British accent, even though he was supposed to be in character as Angier and not Caldlow. I thought that was a nice detail.

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Of course you are absolutely right; but it is a pretty dull brained question to begin with. He a British Lord for Christ's sakes! His family has a bottomless pit of money! Oy veh!

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I was coming on here to ask this exact question. I have seen this move a dozen times and I guess I kind of missed that part. I though the Lord Caldlow was just another stage name or something.

And someone suggestion he duplicated coins, he might have AFTER but certainly not before LOL Thats why the question is asked to begin with. I thought "did he really become a "millionaire" like Penn & Teller as a magician, especially back then? I hardly think so. He might have made a good living eventually but not enough to say "money is no object" to Tesla.

So thank you for answering!

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I think what the OP is asking, is where did Angier get the money from so that he could travel all the way to Colorado, stay there at a luxurious hotel for two years, and commission Tesla to invent and build a unique, impossible machine for him?

"Duplicating gold coins" is not the answer to that question.

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Yes, at the end, although I supposed you had to put two and two together. Angier had always been Lord Caldlow, a wealthy English lord. He changed his name to Rupert Angier because he wanted to enter show business and that wouldn't have been a suitable profession for an English aristocrat. Early in the film there's a brief exchange with his wife when they're talking about the Chinese magician pretending to be an old man and she points out that he's pretending too, to which he replies "That's just to save my family from embarassment."

Unless Alpert's covered in bacon grease, I don't think Hugo can track anything.

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He changed his name to Rupert Angier because he wanted to enter show business and that wouldn't have been a suitable profession for an English aristocrat.


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