But it's also very true to life. By that I mean poorly thought out, indulgent, and with often ruinous consequences. Most memorable scenes... Peggy giving a hand job to a stranger in the movie theatre; Marie going down on Roger in front of a surprised Sally; and Sal with the interrupted gay tryst with the bellhop. Of course, I'm sure we could list a bunch more but that would be... well.. indulgent.
shareHow can they be graphic when there is no nudity shown?
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Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.
You don't have to see nudity in order for it to be graphic. OP is actually on point with it being more realistic than most sex scenes. There's a difference between two people having sex and two nude actors trying to turn on an audience. Mad Men is more like the former.
A good review of "Inside Out": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXC_205E3Og
I think there does have to be nudity to be graphic. I don't think realism equals graphic,
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Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.
You don't have to see nudity in order for it to be graphic. OP is actually on point with it being more realistic than most sex scenes.
Speaking as someone who was sort of around that era, illicit sex often happened with clothes on - it's pretty much on point for the era
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Pete and Peggy having sex in his office and the janitor sees it through the opaque glass.
I would say the sex scenes are well done. Enough is shown for the audience to get the idea of what's going on without being really dirty or porno-like.
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Actually I had completely different feelings for Don after he shoved his hand up Bobbie's dress, threaten her and then wipe his hand off to go back to his formal dining. His attitude towards women like Bobbie was a bit revealing.
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That was certainly okay with Bobbie.
shareShe wanted the "full Don Draper treatment."
shareRegardless of anything, that was a complete d!ck move. No decent human being would have done something like that, they'd have walked away from it.
shareIt's part of Don's character -- a very complex man who's game for anything and capable of many dishonorable moves. The woman he assaulted was not innocent and probably took it in her stride and perhaps saw it as her just deserts, at least in a '50s context. Certainly agree that it was a horrid thing to do.
sharea very complex man who's game for anything and capable of many dishonorable moves.
I remember that scene - Don really stroked her proper!
share...are why fast-forward was invented, and why (not exaggerating) I have worn the letters "FF" off buttons on more than one remote. Not just beatings and tortures and splattering of blood and guts on walls. There are also those excruciatingly-overlong, spit-swapping kissing scenes--complete with the slurping and sucking noises.
Most TV sex scenes bore the living crap out of both me and my wife...the older you get and the more sex you've experienced, the less interesting they are to watch.
Graphic sex scenes are much the same as scenes of graphic violence...something to be endured, rather than enjoyed. And please, folks, don't go playing the "Prude!" and "Wussy!" cards yet again. Heard it all before, and anyone who doesn't like what I've said can just sue me.
🚋🚋 Just take that streetcar that's going uptown...
The sex scenes on MM are nothing compared to the ones on another cancelled period show called " Board Walk Empire. I actually had to turn my head a few times, but I am an old fashioned prude anyway. Remember when a brazen Bobbi locked Don's office door with Joan outside typing with a slightly shocked look on her face?
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When I think graphic, I think Game of Thrones. Not this. These were well done scenes that gave you the illusion and feeling of watching sex rather than showing anything. Totally what I prefer.
shareThe sex scenes on this show, while tiresome for me because there's so many, are amazingly done. Tasteful with some realism to it. In my opinion, all sex scenes should be shot this way. In some cases on this show, it even shows how you don't need all that extra screaming and soft porn style nudity and thrusting to arouse an audience or to properly emote sex on screen.
That's the thing I respect and admire most about the creators/producers of this show. The way they shot all of them was perfect and aimed at adults, not horny teenagers or otherwise sexually curious/obsessed people.
I think it's so sad to see that there are still so many people "shaming" sex scenes. I think it's so disrespectul to writers, producers, directors and actors.
I don't think all sex scenes should be shot this way or that way. I think artists should express themselves the way they think it's best and the way fits the story they're telling. And it's sad to see that some people will shame more realistic approaches.
But... I'll never understand why some people are so scared of sex and naked bodies anyway.
But... I'll never understand why some people are so scared of sex and naked bodies anyway.
This is just a general statement I'm about to make after reading some comments. I don't consider sex scenes to be particularly artistic in anyway, shape or form, nor for it to be disrespectful to criticize the directiors/creators for how one is shot. I also don't see how people can be offended by someone criticizing one or taking issue with sex in films. Not all of us see *beep* on screen as art or something that needs to be depicted. That's part of the reasons why porn stars have trouble be taking seriously when they "crossover" into mainstream. Sex is something everyone who isn't abstinent does in pretty much the same ways. It's not hard to imagine what the act looks like and there's nothing complicated about making such a scene. Now, properly depicting losing a child and what that does to one's psyche, showing real-life emotions on screen, and properly and accurately depicting a person battling their addictions, is art. Making people use their imaginations and making the story believable, regardless of genre or how "far out" the sorry is, is art. In the case of this show, showing how Don Draper was effectively living a double life and how no matter what he does, his past always comes into play in some way, is definitely art. That's something much harder to depict and get the viewers attention for, and keep the viewers attention for.
shareFollowing that same logic there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to show "kissing scenes". Well, why would you force two actors to kiss each other? Kissing "is something everyone who isn't abstinent does in pretty much the same ways". So is there any need to show that they kiss? There is if you want to depict a part of their romantic/love life. Sex is a part of that too.
Sex is something everyone who isn't abstinent does in pretty much the same ways.
It's not hard to imagine what the act looks like and there's nothing complicated about making such a scene.
Now, properly depicting losing a child and what that does to one's psyche, showing real-life emotions on screen, and properly and accurately depicting a person battling their addictions, is art.
I also don't see how people can be offended by someone criticizing one or taking issue with sex in films.