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Good, entertaining watch despite its many flaws.


Finally got around to watching this series after hearing so much about it and my overall opinion is that, for a show that is poorly written in so many ways, it is surprisingly compelling and hard to stop watching.

First, the bad. The dialogue is terrible. There's no way around that. The writers cram so much exposition into everything that's said that it is a rarity that anything any character says sounds natural. Light's inner monologues are guilty of this as well and, especially in the early episodes, he can't seem to hold a conversation without going into deep thought in between every line of dialogue. This is almost forgiveable in the first episode or two as the writers have to explain the concept and the character in a very short space of time but it got to the point where it became ridiculous; someone would ask him something completely trivial and he would start considering whether or not the way he answered would reveal the fact that he is Kira for example his Mother would ask if he wanted something to eat and he'd stand there for about thirty seconds thinking something like "If I say no. She'll think something's wrong and only naturally assume that I'm in my room killing people by writing their names in a notebook." Obviously, that's an exaggeration but it is essentially what those interactions boil down to. I would love to see an edited version where we don't hear Light's thoughts and so after a question is asked he would stand there in silence for thirty seconds before answering usually with a one word answer.

A lot of the show centres around the intelligence of Light, L, Near and Mello but they only appear intelligent because they come to completely insane conclusions that just so happen to be right. Some of their deductions are completely ludicrous and would be impossible to work out but the writers just give them knowledge of things they can't possibly know and pass it off as them being super-intelligent. Well to me it just seems like super-lazy writing.

However, the show manages to remain entertaining through its premise, its interesting showcasing of morals, and most of all the dynamic between Light and L. Which is why the writers should have found some way to keep L in the show. There are legitimate reasons why L was killed off and it made sense in a lot of ways but after that the show couldn't replace the void his absence left and instead replaced him with close to carbon copies of himself with Near and Mellow and it just seemed incredibly forced.

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The writers cram so much exposition into everything that's said that it is a rarity that anything any character says sounds natural. Light's inner monologues are guilty of this as well and, especially in the early episodes, he can't seem to hold a conversation without going into deep thought in between every line of dialogue. This is almost forgiveable in the first episode or two as the writers have to explain the concept and the character in a very short space of time


My limited exposure to anime seems to suggest that this is a pretty common trait to begin with. There are a lot of rules surrounding the use of the Death Note though, and it always seemed natural enough to me, considering there were usually enough people around to wonder just what the hell was going on. There had to be an understanding between each other, as far as the characters were concerned, so that was an avenue for the writers to explain it to us. They pull out some info dumps. Occasionally Light would be alone and we'd have to know what he was thinking. Pretty necessary. There was a lot going on, I don't know how anyone could pretend the thing would be coherent without the characters explaining everything. There were lots of rules, and things to keep in mind, things that were relevant to the plot.

his Mother would ask if he wanted something to eat and he'd stand there for about thirty seconds thinking something like "If I say no. She'll think something's wrong and only naturally assume that I'm in my room killing people by writing their names in a notebook." Obviously, that's an exaggeration but it is essentially what those interactions boil down to.


I wish you had an actual example. At least then I could weigh that example against my understanding.

A lot of the show centres around the intelligence of Light, L, Near and Mello but they only appear intelligent because they come to completely insane conclusions that just so happen to be right.


Again, no example. Only one thing springs immediately to mind. Near asks Aizawa if anyone on the Kira Squad has been a Kira suspect. When Aizawa tells him that one has, Near presses him for details, Aizawa explains that their "Deputy Director Yagami" threatened to kill the suspect, and his accomplice before turning the gun on himself. Based on this information Near determines that Light is almost definitely Kira. I'm hoping though, that you don't consider this to be a "good" example of what you're talking about, because that's not insane - it's brilliant. The show is chocked full of stuff like that, I rarely - if ever - found it wanting.

Well to me it just seems like super-lazy writing.


Maybe you're not giving the show enough credit to really consider the angles they're presenting. I don't know. I'm sure I would have a better idea of what you mean if you gave some examples. Most of their conclusions seem to be reached through simple deductive reasoning.

its interesting showcasing of morals


This, I thought, could have been explored deeper.

most of all the dynamic between Light and L.


Not to be contrarian for the sake of it, but I don't think I found this quite as interesting as other people. What made the dynamic interesting was how sure L was that Light was Kira, and how Light always seemed to weasel out of revealing it. In other words: the plot. Character wasn't terrible, I just don't think it took center stage to the plot, and I certainly don't think theirs was great in spite of it; because of it, more like.

Near and Mellow were intentional carbon copies of L, I always appreciated the fact that they didn't pretend otherwise, but I can understand that not everybody thinks this way. The original idea - of them being his kids, would've made more sense though. I don't know exactly how old he was supposed to be, so I choose to believe they are anyway.

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Your criticism of the dialogue is of the english dub right? When it comes to anime there are only a couple shows that I would admit have a really good english version, usually because the japanese voice acting is much better.

Also, the Death Note manga is excellent and explains parts of the show much more clearly, if you enjoyed the show you might want to check that out.

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Uh, what? The dialogue was great, and for a paranoid person to consider those possibilities isn't unusual. I think you're having a hard time grasping what an intelligent person can conclude based on your own limited capacity. I would tell you to refrain from watching Sherlock another brilliant show but you might find it to be "lazy writing" because you couldn't ever come to the same conclusions. Mind you people in science came to some pretty ludicrous conclusions as well based on absolutely nothing.

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The biggest problems is the whole "well if he thinks I'm this, then he would expect me to do this, but if he suspects I know he thinks that, then he might think I would do this, so I should do this".

The tennis match is the worst example of this. The easiest most logical outcome anyone could surmise is that everybody wants to win, nobody likes losing. But instead we have to hear this silly monologue about what Light and L think in regards to each other for something that doesn't matter.

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I agree, it is insulting to the audience to have everything spelled out to them again and again.

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