What was the point?


Whatever it was is lost on me. Pure Oscar bait perhaps? The girl who played his sister should get a nod, she was excellent. Otherwise wtf?

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Don't let your friend's little donkey eat your finger or the civil war will never end.
Otherwise....the movie was quite good. Get a clue.

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What was good about it? Just give me three points?

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I'll give you three:

-excellent performances from the entire cast
-smart, sharp screenplay
-some funny moments

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No. Your wrong.

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Another useless fucking troll. Get a personality.

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- Flawless dialogue, acting, photo direction
- Excellent relevant portrait of existential terror, the pointlessness of determining the origins of any war (all that does is escalate violence, why can't brother stop killing brother, why can't people stop acting like Banshees), the absurdism of violence and war, the impact of British occupation on Irish, the absurdism of a duel to the death
- brilliant tragiocomedy presented so simply

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The director/writer is a playwright/philosopher is controversially dedicated to presenting hyperviolence (gratuitious, graphic violence) within Irish culture/history as functional violence, and being functional, an essential characteristic of human interaction. His films and plays are all about reconsidering stereotypical Irish hyperviolence as functional violence, and the functional violence is essential and integral to the power dynamic between characters.

Colm/England inflicts existential terrorism onto Padraic/Ireland, which quickly accelates to absurd pointless violence. Why has my lifetime friend/England left me all alone? What have I done to deserve this treatment and punishment? Why is everybody (fellow Irish) in town on his side (England's side), he's cutting off his own fingers (sacrificing Irish brother against Irish brother) and everybody is blaming me and telling me to leave him alone when he's mad and is acting nothing like himself and abusing me? Why has England done this to us? Why are Irish brothers slaughtering each other? Why is everybody acting like a Banshee? How did this start? Why am I being punishment by an entire town for the actions of a mad man who cuts his fingers off to spite his face? Padraic/Ireland blows up England/Colm'sHouse, all kinds of Troubles have now infested themselves into this island of an island town (separate from all the wars and violence) where the guncrackle of the Irish Civil War can be heard in the far distance and now within the house fire.

The hyperviolence springs from Irish history (British occupation, Irish Civil War, IRA, INLA, wanton brutality and bloodshed), something unavoidable and generational and twisted into a stereotype against the Irish.

Hyperviolence and its functionality and its absurdity and mootness is what the director/writer is grappling with in every film/play he creates. Banshees is his most distilled, minimialized approach yet to the subject matter.

This film also mirrors the Irish Civil War (the Civil War is in the distant backdrop of the film), brother/friend/neighbour inexplicably punishing and destroying fellow brother/friend/neighbour. In a Civil War, where family and friends and neighbours are tied by deep historic relations and roots and intimate history, the origins of the war are moot, there should not be a war, they should not be destroying each other. A timeless concept.

Colm/English/Unionist (British rule) inexplicably punishes Padraic/Irish/Republican (Irish self-rule) by cutting off friendship, which is psychological punishment on Padraic. Colm hyperviolently cuts off his fingers (lot of common sense symbolism in what he does, cut off nose to spite face, cut off right hand man) to scapegoat Padraic, which is an example of Colm/Britain's existential terrorism inflicted on Padraic/Ireland.

There's a lot to unpack in this film, these are a few thoughts about what the film is about. This film is an example of Theatre du Grand-Guignol, Martin McDonough is very well noted and controversial for using techniques from Grand-Guignol theatre, all of his films and plays quickly alternate from comedy to violence, causing audiences to laugh during scenes of carnage and gore.

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YAWWWWWWN. Did u say something? Your as boring as this movie was, and stupid too. Btw I didnt even read the whole thing that you so wanted me to read. I just laughed and laughed…. I gave this 3/10. You wanna see a real good film? Go watch Cool Hand Luke or Lawrence of Arabia etc. This was forgettable trash.

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The idiolla you posted is forgettable trash

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Ok, because your the expert. 😂

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But idiolla is what people remember 40 years later, intellectuolla gets forgotten as we decend into the yahoos who remembers or cares about some 18th century knob anyway?

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That is rude.

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If someone is nice enough to respond to your BS, you're the AH to insult him/her for the effort.

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Great reply, all great points to a great movie.
All wasted on that dickless troll.

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Just because someone can make a vague symbolistic case for analogizing this movie to a historic even does not mean it is a good analogy, or a great movie. Clearly it is not when most people who watch it have no idea what it is, nor is the movie standalone enough to make a universal case about war or "hyperviolence" whatever that is.

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It's not vague, the analogy is what the writer director himself wrote and directed in all of his films and plays. Just because you do not understand the film or like the film does not mean the film is bad. You having no idea of what the film is about does not mean the film is bad and has no meaning. It means you perpetually fail to understand everything at all times.

The film is about a man who mistreats and scapegoats his lifetime best friend. A tale as old as the bible. Cain and Abel not to mention Jacob and Esau come to mind. Billy the Kid and Pat Garrett were best friends then enemies.

Who doesn't understand something as simple as brother attacking brother for moot reasons?

Who doesn't understand something as simple as a friend cutting off all relations with a lifetime friend for no valid reason? And going as far as to inflict self-harm on himself/herself and blame the friend for the self-harm to turn other people against the fried?

Inexplicable scapegoating?

Happens all the time in the real world outside the internet.

13,000+ messages on this halfwit site, another troll, unsurprised.

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> Just because you do not understand the film or like the film does not mean the film is bad.

In case it's not bloody obvious, I can just speak for my own opinion. Duh!

It is vague. There is no human being or real interaction between people where anyone would act like this, so it is abstract which is by definition vague.

> It means you perpetually fail to understand everything at all times.

And it doesn't mean that either. I get the point, it's just silly, and pointless and unnecessary.

And why if someone disagrees with you do you have to be such a donkey?

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Hey there are lots of not trolls here, don't get discouraged.
I do not know of a better site where to chat about movies like it was on imdb, do you?

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Then there are the phony intellectuals who have to pretend on the Internet because they are such dummies in real life, and on the internet.

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Is it reallyscapegoating if you realize your so called friends are really just idiots who follow you around like a puppy expecting a treat and are a total waste of your time but won't fecking just leave you alone now thatyou've given him a few treats

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I agree with the one paragraph in the middle…l think the two main characters were representing the two sides of the Civil War….with the sister representing those that were driven away and the younger guy representing the toll the war took on the younger generation…I don’t think Colm was meant to represent Britain at all.

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That was great - really interesting. You may be casting these pearls before swine but you’ve given me anyway a lot to consider.

To me the hallmark of a great movie is how much you think about it after you’ve seen it, and that’s because it means the movie is STILL entertaining you. I saw this movie for the first time last night and I’ve been thinking about it ever since.

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Interesting analysis. It reminds me of Leone's "Once Upon a Revolution" aka "Duck, You Sucker!" which also features a relationship between Irish Republicans. Their story centered around an Irish symbol embodied by a woman they both loved, but it was all for nought.

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Wow forgot about that film, rated it a 9/10, underrated, definitely agree about the similar plot parallel

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Interesting, I saw Colm as Ireland and Padraig as England. Ireland doesn’t want England’s presence anymore, and England can’t understand why - “I am a nice guy, aren’t I”? Ireland goes as far as cutting off part of itself (Northern Ireland) and give it to England in order to keep England away, but England still doesn’t get the message.

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Great analysis. Obviously, though, you've cast pearls before swine.

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Oscar bait? Does this seem like the pandering shit Hollywood makes to win Oscars? Three Billboards was Oscar bait. Racist cop ends up helping black people. C'mon...

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What was the point? Its boring, bad storytelling and forgettable. Your right no Oscar consideration will be given.

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You're an idiot.

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You're (!) probably correct. He's had 3 chances to use the correct "you're" and used "your" instead.

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Having watched this last night, I came here to pose the exact same question. What a depressing pointless and stupid movie. Perhaps it was about the stupidty and futility of the civil war that was going on? In any case, I don't care and have no idea, an wish I had switched to another movie because I was thinking eventually this would lighten up.

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I think the point was that it's an interesting premise (due to the inexplicability of the older guy's actions) and the director just wanted to explore that and see how it plays out.

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Exploring some non-existent unreal person's mental illness? Sounds like a great idea for a movie, eh?

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The entire point of the movie is don't be a dullard or you will discover all the nice people in your life have ambitions other than meaningless small talk and will abandon you when you need them most.

This is a very artsy movie to fully appreciate it you need to be a colm

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Colin Ferrells character was a rather nice, pleasant and friendly person. He understood and cared about the value of friendship whether he was a dullard or rather just not the smartest person. By the end of the film and due to his “friends” actions and behaviors his good spirit had completely been corrupted. That was my take away.

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He didn't understand anything. If padraic had merely left colm alone as he had asked to padraic to colm would have all his fingers

Padriac was self centered in the friendship he only cared about getting colm to actl like the dull drinking buddy he used to be when colm was going through his own issues in life

Padriac couldn't have cared less about col as a person, he was too dull for existential conversations or helping adepressed man the only wayhe could by fecking leaving him alone

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That wasn't the point of the movie at all, in fact it was pretty clearly the opposite:

Don't act unreasonably and utterly alienate people under vague pretensions of grandeur or you are likely to both damage yourself and precipitate a very strong response that you're not prepared for, as a metaphor for, as another user pointed out above, the ongoing civil war and broader England-Ireland conflict.

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Ireland no longer wants to be friends with England because they feel England has been holding them back.

England refuses to accept this. Ireland begins hurting itself as a form of protest but, as is often the case, one form of violence leads to another (death of the pony)

In response, England retaliates by burning Ireland's entire house down.

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Ok, now thats the most sensible explanation I have heard. Kudos and thanks.

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What is the point of any movie/novel/etc about people, human relationships and inter-relationships? I didn’t enjoy this film much either but not because it was a bad film. It was a very fine film - good acting, beautifully shot scenes, and interesting/quirky characters who live out their lives in a very tight circle and have little self-understanding. I just found it a little too sad and depressing.

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