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I agree with him, but his films are terrible


I hate Hillary Clinton with a passion, but couldn't even make it through that awful Clinton documentary he did. He needs to get a better director for these movies.

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Im confused. Whats wrong with the movies.
He bases his movies on a solid foundation of FACT. The left bases their foundation on an "illusion" of fact. No left wing group will debate him. He has never lost a debate with those who have tried. So they just cast him aside and disregard him is discredit him on a basis of nothing.
Seems rather obvious to me.
Thanks for being on the right side about the Clintons.

I WILL NOT GET INTO A POLITICAL DEBATE HERE WHERE IT IS NO APPROPRIATE!

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It's not that he doesn't have a base for his arguements, it's just I don't think he constructs them as well as some others on his side could. His films are also just not well edited or put together at all.

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I will accept that as your opinion here. I dont agree with it. We seem to be on the same side. Im pleased with that fact.
I AM a little confused about the whole thing of Hillary being brought up in the discussion of THIS movie. She is really not related to THIS movie. She is the subject of a different movie on which I have different views and opinions.

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What are you talking about? The left wins every debate with the republicans and democrat socialism will save America.

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ya love how they claim democrats want Venezuela, even though they constantly beg for canada or Norway.

in canada Bernie and AOC would be the NDP. in other ways many of their ideas have been long accepted and centrist. in many places they'd be slightly center left. americas just gone so crazy

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No one says that Democrats WANT Venezuela, they just claim that nations like Venezuela are the natural result of Socialist/Communist/Marxist policies.

I might be willing to agree that Democrats want something akin to Canada or Norway--which aren't actually socialist nations, but free market capitalist countries--if Bernie didn't honeymoon in the USSR and AOC wasn't connected to DSA, which has openly said before that their ultimate goal is to turn America into an actual socialist nation, not a "democratic" socialist nation.

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yes Venezuela's means of production was a largely state controlled. which NOT A SINGLE democrat is asking for.

"I might be willing to agree that Democrats want something akin to Canada or Norway--which aren't actually socialist nations, but free market capitalist countries--if Bernie didn't honeymoon in the USSR and AOC wasn't connected to DSA, which has openly said before that their ultimate goal is to turn America into an actual socialist nation, not a "democratic" socialist nation."

please stop talking. you just made all that up in your head. I feel embarrassed for you. it would take one second of research but it seems you cant be bothered and dont even have a grade 10 civics level of understanding of politics. so sad.

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Whats so bad about Venezeula? Have you ever been there? Don't we need more state control in this country?

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its had some major problems. some say wholly due to the failed state control of production. Others that it was a mix of factors like falling oil prices or outside influence.

that aside agree the USA does need more state control in certain sectors. whether that direct control like a healthcare framework. or just common sense regulation of shady practices corporations get away with

people think a "free market" is just naturally occurring and the government needs to step aside.

in reality government are stewards of a market that are necessary to keep it health and functioning. if not you get monopolies, anti consumer practices and massive abuses of power.

markets arent functioning because governments got out of the way. markets function when he government isnt controlled by the corporations and wealthy and actually strike a balance between business and consumer.

You dont need to be an economist to figure this out. ask people who bought ford pintos, the decades of lead based paint and gasoline. Those that have been pointed due to lax food inspection or died or horribly effected by drugs pushed through by an impotent drug regulator.

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Typical leftist, can't even engage in civil conversation. You just get emotional and start hurling insults.

Read point #1:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/5/15930786/dsa-socialists-convention-national

Is it your contention that this is a mischaracterization of DSA's position? Are you going to try to spin it and pretend like that isn't "real" socialism?

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there was nothing emotional. nice try though self projecting.

again AOC and Bernie would be centre leftists in most countries' nd even align with many conservative parties.

sorry you dont know anything about political science :(

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Nice side-stepping of my question and ad-hominem fallacy.

Does DSA wish for "the abolition of capitalism in favor of an economy run either by 'the workers' or the state" or is Vox wrong on this point?

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LOL

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We are not laughing.

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Biden's presidency us sure to bring the lulz so get ready to laugh.

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Biden is a puppet for us on the left. This country needs major changes and democrat socialism is the answer. And the rich must pay their fair share

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Yous a sucker.

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LOLLLLL no one is scared of Dinesh dropping facts. hes a loser nobody rat and anyone actually arguing him debases themselves and the topic.

theres nothing to discredit. to discredit he would have to actually have some integrity or something to discredit.

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Exactly what I expect from radical left.
This has ceased to be a discussion about a movie and has descended into political and ideological rhetoric and personal attacks.

good bye

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you are so dumb it hurts my brain

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Take a few aspirin and call me in the morning.

Im going to be now. Its past my bedtime.

Nighty night!

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writes a post about a guy who is massively partisan, engages in conspiracies and whose entire public persona has been about biased politics.

complains "the left has descended into political and ideological rhetoric and attacks"

do you know how dumb this sounds? What else will they criticize him on? his favourite sports team?

honestly have you ever said anything intelligent? yet another post about you and others being the victim. you seriously are the most beta snowflake ive ever seen. I haven't seen a post yet where it doesnt become or isnt about you being under attack. you have serious issues with constantly being the victim.

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He just isn't that intelligent. combine this with being annoying, uncharismatic and an overall mediocre loser and that's what happens.

its just like many other (not all) conservative media personalities who have dumbed down their content. "anything that isnt republicanism or conservatives is marxism"

its ridiculous. its like me calling every conservative a nazi

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We need Trump stat.

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