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Two Cents on Paranormal TV Shows


As we move into August, I start noticing myself getting more interested in the unknown... it's something I embrace, but not without a certain amount of guilty pleasure... been watching Ghost Hunters and Paranormal Lockdown, running at night, which always leads the way to deeper meditation, slowing down, and just experiencing the beautiful subtle gestures of life in each compelling moment...

Now, I don't believe any of these shows are finding real evidence. At their best, they are explorations in the realm of the human psyche, and perhaps the abnormal psychology of the types of people who host such shows.

Each show does tend to follow a specific pattern of behaviors consistent with their personalities and unspoken but clear agendas...

Ghost Hunters has never found a malevolent spirit in the last 5 years, in fact every single spirit they apprehend when discussing it at the end of the investigation has always been harmless, which leads me to believe their agenda is simply to placate people's fears and runaway imaginations, while still exploiting that fear to make a living, and then get mad when NBC's Syfy channel messes with you.

Ghost Adventures started out strong with a lot of time spent on the people, places, and history of their investigations, but has grown into the Zak Bagans Egomaniacal Douchery Show that is so overly produced as to be embarrassing. Okay it was always embarrassing, but now it's full on cringe, and everything they meet is demonic.

So Ghost Hunters took the scam LIGHT, and Ghost Adventures took the scam DARK.

Paranormal Lockdown stars Nick Groth who left Ghost Adventures for reasons people speculate about, but no one really knows. The official reason is to spend more time with his family, but that doesn't add up because he left Zak's show which does overnight lockdowns to do a show that does 72 hour lockdowns, so basically something else happened we just don't know about, perhaps a battle of wills, Nick wanting to be a bigger host in the Zak show, and Zak wanting to control it all as usual, would be my guess.

That spirit box they use is such a joke, to think that what they hear are actually words and specific to a gender is to what any objective person would hear as aural pareidolia.

People are diagnostic tools, but people also need to understand that those tools are subject to faulty reading, because you are not only the tool, you are the reader of the tool... and people have a subconscious, and identifications with preconceived ideas, ideologies, engrained reactions, etc... so to be a truly pure tool and read yourself objectively, you must be a master of yourself, emotionally, mentally, and these hosts are not Zen Masters, if anything they tend to be reactionary actors, and when recording a show, there are control issues, sensitivity barriers, because one is spending more time observing themselves to put on a good show, then clearly experiencing anything.

This creates a certain lack of honesty in these shows that seem very thick with every show of this type I watch. These shows need to stop controlling, and spend more time just being... honest, sensitive, open minded possibilities...

That isn't to say the shows aren't entertaining, because we bring ourselves to these shows, and if you love these types of old, historical, creepy locations, you can get something from the show, but you'd probably get more investigating places yourself.

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Your post is so beautifully cerebral and articulate. I agree with about 99% of what you have stated above.

I, too, have always wondered about Nick's departure from GA. I speculate that maybe he and Zak had some sort of falling out. Perhaps he got tired of Zak's ego and bossiness and chose to break away from him. In the early days of GA, Nick was my favorite cast member. He seemed to be the most honest, intuitive, and sensitive of the crew. Unfortunately, I have yet to view Paranormal Lockdown. I hope that the show is a success and brings Nick good fortune.

I think the bottom line is that as we watch this genre of television show, it should be for entertainment purposes. We should take all "evidence" with a grain of salt. Certainly, some episodes of GA have presented more compelling evidence than others.

Thank you for your introspective and eloquent post.

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I have grown so unaccustomed to genuine praise in my life that I must say I am stopped in my tracks in appreciation to wake up to such a post in the morning. So first of all, thank you. Secondly, Paranormal Lockdown is a good show in my opinion... I think it has a crucial factor that balances personalities and creates quality... that is the balance of Nick and Katrina... his intellect and her emotional honesty. In any milieu that is truly successful you find such a team working behind the scenes. Most predominantly, I have noticed this dynamic in the world of music! There's also one intensely niche genius, and the mellow down to earth interpreter who helps ground the ideas... The Beatles had John Lennon and Paul McCartney in those roles (it actually also had Harrison and Ringo as mellow stabilizers as well, which is rare), Pink Floyd had Roger Waters and David Gilmour, Rush had Neil Peart and Geddy Lee... each an other's balancing act of intensity and calm.

I see that kind of dynamic with Nick and Katrina, and that is a good thing.

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Just if you're interested! Thanks again!

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Thank you!😊

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Nice post "jmbwithcats", nice!

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I only managed to watch a couple of GH episodes but to me it seemed that they didn't want to find anything, as in they are unbelievers who want to prove the non existence of ghosts. Hearing their leader moan about the show and his plumbing business didn't help either.

GA started off with a real boys own adventure theme. 3 Guys, locked in a haunted place. It gave me the creeps at times. But then they brought in the Command Centre, than Zak got worse, than Nick left, now all you hear is Zack, Aaron is just a lump.

Now I can't watch it all, the show is boring. Nick's show is a farce as well.

To sum up, I think every idea or theme has it's day and we have been overdosed with Ghost hunting shows and have grown cynical. Whether that is just a time thing or the shows getting worse, or perhaps both?

I also agree they don't find real evidence, how many times have GA picked up a voice and yet never ask follow up questions? It's almost like they know the "Ghost" will vanish. In Nick's new show the EVP's are shocking.



Sometimes a movie or tv show plot is so stupid that only the stupid can understand it.

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Well said, and I agree completely... they say they are looking for ghosts, but they don't followup at all. And just act like victims, and scared little idiots. Nick's new show with Katrina does add the angle of helping the spirits leave through herding them to windows using sage, which is a little better, but still rather silly.

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Ghost Hunters has never found a benevolent spirit in the last 5 years, in fact every single spirit they apprehend when discussing it at the end of the investigation has always been harmless, which leads me to believe their agenda is simply to placate people's fears and runaway imaginations, while still exploiting that fear to make a living, and then get mad when NBC's Syfy channel messes with you.


Don't you mean malevolent? Benevolent means harmless or kind.

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Yes, thank you.








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