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Why didn't they just... (spoilers)

posted 14 years ago by Spunky_Star
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Go back up to the trophey room and take a few of the bad guys cards???

So Bruce's card was toast, but it's not like there wasn't thousands of dollars worth of stuff up stairs. Or better yet, while you were up there earlier, who wouldn't just grab a few... as replacement for the one being held hostage.

I really didn't like that part, I kept expecting Tracy Morgan to whip out an even more valuable card at the end. I mean it's not like the bad guy was going to miss them and no one was left alive who would know.

I just thought with all the other *beep* they pulled, swiping a few cards would have been more believable

[–] bing-57 14 years ago

> I mean it's not like the bad guy was going to miss them and no one was left alive who would know.

You missed a rather important scene earlier in the movie. He spent a good chunk of time explaining to the other cops that Tracey wasn't a dirty cop and how insulted he was that anyone would think that.

To then steal cards would violate every ounce of integrity he has, even if it was stealing from a dead crook. Plus, if anyone found out, they'd immediately assume that Tracey was a dirty cop too.

Nah. He had to stay clean.

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[–] Spunky_Star 14 years ago

Are you serious???

Did you miss all the other dirty cop stuff they did?

They bailed a thief out of prison so that he could burgle the house and when they thought he was dead BW wanted to put him in the dumpster!

They dragged the guy by the car, pretended to still be active while on suspension and I know there was heaps of other stuff, but the movie wasn't really that memorable.

Anyway, I'm not saying they are dirty cops in the sense of taking bribes and pay offs, although they did agree to find a drug dealers car as a deal, but to take something as replacement for something that was taken from you, isn't anywhere near as dirty as some of the other things they did.

As a cop, there should be no grey area, there's good and bad, and these two had already crossed that line.

[–] bing-57 14 years ago

> Anyway, I'm not saying they are dirty cops in the sense of taking bribes and pay offs,

That is the definition of dirty. When a cop does something bad to personally benefit from it (like taking bribes) I call that dirty. When they step over the line in order to get their job done, that's a grey area.

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[–] Spunky_Star 14 years ago

Sorry, but going into grey area makes you dirty...ish. You can't say a cop is only dirty if they take bribes and payoffs.

Besides, they weren't getting their job done, they were getting their revenge on.

[–] bing-57 14 years ago

> Sorry, but going into grey area makes you dirty...ish. You can't say a cop is only dirty if they take bribes and payoffs.

There ya go. Even you drew a line separating cops that profit by breaking the law and cops that break the law with good intentions.

> Besides, they weren't getting their job done, they were getting their revenge on.

That's true. But you still can't call them dirty cops because they were suspended at the time and were acting as private citizens.

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[–] Spunky_Star 14 years ago

>But you still can't call them dirty cops because they were suspended at the time and were acting as private citizens.

But they weren't acting as private citizens, they were still going around acting as cops. Besides, when you are a cop, you are a cop 24-7. Even when you're off duty, you're still a cop. Ask any police officer, they will tell you that.

Look, I really don't see us agreeing lol

I just don't think with all of the stuff they did that taking a few cards would have been that much of a stretch for them and I don't see my view changing, but that's ok, different strokes for different folks.

[–] bing-57 14 years ago

> Even when you're off duty, you're still a cop.

They weren't just off duty, they were suspended and had their badges taken away. They were not cops at that point.

> I just don't think with all of the stuff they did that taking a few cards would have been that much of a stretch for them

Maybe not. But Willis obviously had plenty of opportunity to do it but he did not because of his morals. So your position on the issue, no matter how hard you wish to believe it, just doesn't fit with the facts.

> I don't see my view changing, but that's ok,

Yes that's fine.

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[–] Spunky_Star 14 years ago

You know I really wanted to leave it at the last post, but I think you need to watch the movie again! Because really I think you just keep changing the FACTS around in you head to fit your point of view.

>>They weren't just off duty, they were suspended and had their badges taken away. They were not cops at that point.

Did you miss the part where Tracy pulls out all of his extra guns and badges??? Or all the many times they anounced themselves as POLICE OFICERS while, yes, they were on suspension.

>>But Willis obviously had plenty of opportunity to do it but he did not because of his morals.

You also obviously missed the part when Willis DID try to break into the house to STEAL his card back. And morals??? Seriously, where did you pluck that from, is there a book version of this movie that I don't know about. At no point during this movie do we get an indepth glimpse into Willis' character that suggest anything about his morals.

I don't know what all this *beep* is about, you keep totally ignoring or changing events of the movie and it's starting to bug me. If you want to say you believe that his character just wouldn't do that because that's just what you believe, fine, I'm happier with that, but don't be changing things that went on in the movie just to fit your view, I haven't done that, I have actually gone by factual events.

[–] bing-57 14 years ago

> Did you miss the part where Tracy pulls out all of his extra guns and badges???

Okay, you got me there. They were officially suspended by the chief but because Tracy had spare badges and guns, *DING*, they are automatically fully reinstated police officers.

And you know what? I have gun around here somewhere and a badge I got at a birthday party a few years ago. So that makes me a cop too!

> Or all the many times they anounced themselves as POLICE OFICERS while, yes, they were on suspension.

Oh I get it. You think that impersonating a police officer (remember, they weren't police officers at that point) automatically makes them police officers.

Gosh, there are a lot of ways to become a real police officer in your book, aren't there?

> You also obviously missed the part when Willis DID try to break into the house to STEAL his card back.

I did not. I have told you many times that breaking and entering and taking back your property is illegal. Again, I point to O.J. as a real-life example.

> And morals??? Seriously, where did you pluck that from

As I said earlier, from the fact that he wouldn't steal the other valuable cards that were just right in front of him for the taking.

> I don't know what all this *beep* is about, you keep totally ignoring or changing events of the movie

One example please of something that I have changed?

> and it's starting to bug me.

No. You are bugged because deep down you do agree that taking property without permission is wrong, even if it is yours and you would have gotten it back eventually.

By the way, have you called the cops yet to ask whether a private citizen can walk into a crime scene and grab their stolen goods without telling anyone?

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[–] Spunky_Star 14 years ago

You're a dick and I've only just realised you missed the entire point.

Your post completely backs up everything I have said.

THE END.

Don't bother posting again, I'll just delete it.

[–] bing-57 14 years ago

> You're a dick

Ah yes. Name calling. That's the universal internet signal of defeat. You can't defend your points so you just swear at your opponent and then pout.

I accept your white flag and we will not speak of this again.

> Don't bother posting again, I'll just delete it.

Hmm. You seem to understand IMDB policy about as well as you understand the law.

Okay then. I dare you to follow through with your threat.

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[–] LosingStreak 13 years ago

As I said earlier, from the fact that he wouldn't steal the other valuable cards that were just right in front of him for the taking.

So your justification for him not stealing the cards in the first place is that he has morals... your justification for which is that he does not steal the cards.

Circular reasoning, man. It's a doozy.

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[–] bing-57 13 years ago

> Circular reasoning, man. It's a doozy.

Yup. That's what makes this movie confusing and inconsistent on the morals issue. It seems that the characters in the movie has fluid and ever-changing morals.

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