I'll tell you what's not going to work... - IT (2017) Discussion

[–] Occult_Detective 8 years ago

I used to hate the idea too, so don't get me wrong. But I've had time to let it sink in and I think that it can work, if done right. As long as they steer clear of David Kajganich's 2010 attempt, they should be fine. Even the mini-series had bumped up the dates from 57-58 and 85 to 1960 and 1990.

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[–] bossdog677 8 years ago

Moving Ghostbusters into present day worked great eh? Maybe they can get some selfies with Pennywise but when they look at the picture 'Dun Dun Dun' he's not there

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[–] t3cii-1 8 years ago

While I'm not crazy about the setting change, to say it's doomed just because of that is pretty stupid.

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[–] jenshughes 8 years ago

I don't think it is doomed at all. The people that are upset about it are fans who will mostly see it anyway. The non-fan is indifferent. The younger target audience that drives revenue and marketing probably prefers the 80's. The 80's are all the rage with the youth these days. For budgeting reasons, the 80's is a time period that is way more cost effective to portray... it makes sense with a fixed budget that they wouldn't want to spend the entire sum trying to make it look like the 50's.

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[–] MachoManRandySavage 8 years ago

Why will that make it not work or doom it? Explain.

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[–] andy-666-822933 8 years ago

Mood, ambience, etc. The time period impacts that...a lot.

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[–] MachoManRandySavage 8 years ago

The book isn't about mood or ambiance. Instead of 50's music on the radio they can have 80's music on the radio...who cares?

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[–] andy-666-822933 8 years ago

*beep* and shinola!" That's what Georgie says when the boat goes into the sewer. You think kids in the 80s used phrases like that? What about Henry Bowers, etc.? Those characters seem like they walked off the set of a movie like The Outsiders. Putting them in the 80s will fundamentally change that, and not for the better. Also, mood and atmosphere are critical to any story, especially a horror movie. Are you seriously suggesting that it doesn't matter?

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[–] TheRealRandyWatson 8 years ago

Georgie will probably say something else then, that won't the change the scene at all.

Henry and his gang weren't defined by their clothing. Just look at the thugs that kill Adrian Mellon, they are basically Bowers' gang in the 80's.

Mood and atmosphere are indeed critical to any story, but shifting the story from the 50's to the 80's doesn't have to change the essence of the story at all. You are being anal about stuff that doesn't define the story.

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[–] MachoManRandySavage 8 years ago

Exactly what I mean, TheRealRandyWats.

They said different things in the 80's, but kids still swore and exclaimed things...it's like you miss the spirit of the thing because you're hung up on design. I grew up in the 80's, and there were punks and heavy metal kids or whoever else. The Outsider "greaser" types were just the rebels of that day. The costume doesn't matter, the spirit of the rebellious type is what matters. They will be the same characters just in different uniform.

The fundamentals won't change at all. In reality the 80's and 50's weren't radically different anyway. People are people, and that's the point. Gadgets and games and style of clothes change, but what kids did and how they interacted wasn't all that different.

What I said about mood and ambiance is not what I really meant I suppose. I meant like if you want it to look like a postcard of the 50's, it won't, but that isn't the point of the book....that's the whole crux of what I'm saying. Kids rode bikes in the 80's and the 50's so that's all that matters. The make and model of the bike is irrelevant....it's obviously going to be a horror movie and the book is the source material, so mood isn't even a concern in that regard.

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[–] GuyNCognito 8 years ago

If you've read the book, you'd know that Henry Bowers doesn't look like a greaser. He has a buzz cut hair style and a pink leather jacket....

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[–] woodgatejack-sfr 8 years ago

The thing with the book is that the 1985 bits were contemporary, set as they were in about the same year as the book was released, that they were happening "now".

I think moving it forward to the 1980's and 2010's is a wise move, having one section set in the 50's and the other in the 80's, you'll get a double dose of "nostalgia", which may reduce the dramatic tension somewhat. One of the points of the book is how we view things in the here and now as opposed to the rosy glow of nostalgia. By having both sections set in "a more innocent time" you could lose some of that.

If you look at it, kids in the 1980's were not that much different to those of the 1950's- we wore jeans, went for rides on our bikes, listened to music on our radios, smoked behind our parents' backs, hell- my friends and I even built a dam once. The digital age hadn't begun yet, so kids didn't all carry smartphones and tablets like they do now.

Some things would need to change, you couldn't have Mike's father being a soldier around War World II, for example, but themes such as racism, bullying and all the other dramas would still be present.

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[–] bossdog677 8 years ago

My grandpa hates how all the 80's music is on the oldies stations now and i see why I was riding with him the other day and Venus came on the oldies station but it wasnt sung by bananarama and it was modified to sound like it came out in the 50's or 60's

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[–] MachoManRandySavage 8 years ago

I'm sure you're joking, but just in case...the Bananarama version was a cover of the original, which you probably heard.

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