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Georgie boat scene (SPOILERS)


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I saw the movie today and I loved it, I just have this minor frustration with the Georgie and Pennywise scene.

I saw the scene prior to watching the movie infront of the Annabelle movie, and I was completely blown away. The way Pennywise was talking to Georgie while getting more and more intense was just amazing.

But then in the full movie that I finally saw, there's this god damn difference in that scene where half way in, it CUTS to this old woman and her cat living in the house that is just infront of where Georgie is talking into the sewer drain to Pennywise.

I felt that was a super bad decision... What was the point of showing the old lady and her cat.. So they could react to Georgie being torn appart? The reason doesn't even matter, they SHOULD NOT have cut away from the intensity of that scene between Pennywise and Georgie.

I was so happy that this scene was so perfect after seeing the clip, and then I see the final movie and they messed it up?

Just had to get this off my chest, anybody feel the same?

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It just shows how messed up the adults are in Derry and that the adults will look away. And if I remember correctly from reading the book, IT/Pennywise has them under some spell or hypnosis or possessed them so they don't see what's really going on. They actually do this again later on when Henry is carving an "H" into Ben's stomach. A few adults drive by in a car and just keep driving and don't stop to help Ben, although they are looking right at them. We then see the red balloon pop up in the backseat of the car. So IT/Pennywise is manipulating them to not help out or do anything. They are just letting IT/Pennywise do his thing. Maybe someone else whose read the book a few times can explain this better but it's something like that. Oh and then there is also that Bev's dad can't see the blood all over the bathroom, so IT/Pennywise is manipulating him also.

SPOILERS AHEAD!!!

I believe that when the characters take on IT/Pennywise when they are adults and are actually killing him for good, they manage to snap all the adults and citizens of Derry out of whatever IT/Pennywsie is doing to them. Not sure if the sequel will go there though. But the sequel is supposed to explore the origin of IT/Pennywise.

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It didnt strike me the same way. What left me a bit curious is to what happened once the old lady saw the street covered with blood where the boy was kneeling by the sewer.
I was a bit surprised that the lady didnt seem a bit more curious as to why the boy was kneeling down staring into the sewer and talking to someone (unseen).
If I saw that, I might call out to him and ask what he was doing or see if he had lost something (which he had). I would also be very concerned about a boy in the street where he could get hit by a car.
Something like that would just seem "odd" to me and I might pay closer attention than she did and try to intervene for the child's safety. Needless to say, the incident wouldn't go unnoticed like it did with her.
THAT is MY reaction to that scene.

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Most everything and everyone in Derry are affected by It

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I saw it differently. The old lady saw him there by the sewer and I assume the hard rain prevented her from hearing he was talking to someone; the old lady didn't see what happened - the cat did. The old lady did see the blood. It's assumed that she called for emergency personnel (at least that's how I saw it). I see it this way because in a later scene Bill is in the garage with his Dad trying to explain how Georgie could have gone thru the system and come out somewhere - that scene only makes sense if they KNOW that Georgie disappeared down the sewer drain, thus the need for someone to witness he was at the sewer and then blood at the sewer. If no one witness him there; it could have been assumed that a stranger may have taken him that may have been driving by.

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could HAVE*

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Better? :)

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I am a "night owl" and I wrote this in the early hours. I gave the matter more thought and it still leaves some loose ends but you are correct that it is the explanation as to why they felt that Georgie was in the sewer (system). I would have liked to hear what she told the police about the incident.
I will have to see the entire scene over again to see how it all unfolds but the problem I have is that there is a space of time from the time Georgie lost his arm until the time he was DRAGGED down the sewer. In that time he would have been screaming and crying which would have drawn attention to him. THEN he was dragged down the sewer.

I would like to hear an account of what the lady ACTUALLY saw and told the police. I understand that would have probably changed the scope of the movie a bit but it leaves me to wonder how it all was explaines and what the police actually KNEW.

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The old lady didn't really say anything. She looked away and allowed IT/Pennywise to do his thing. Although I read it on Wikipedia, but the plot summary for the novel says that IT/Pennywise has control over the people of Derry, mainly adults, because of all the unsolved disappearances and violent tragedies throughout the years. Actually, the old lady may have said something, but Bill's parents and the other adults just shrugged it off and continued on like Georgie's disappearance never happened, explaining why Bill's dad doesn't want to go looking for Georgie's body like Bill does, although Bill doesn't think he's dead.

This is later shown again when Henry and his friends are ganging up on Ben and then Henry carves an "H" into Ben's stomach. Adults drive by, look straight at what's going on, but just continue on and don't help Ben. We then see a balloon pop up in the backseat indicating that IT/Pennywise has control over them and the adults of the town.

Beverly also points it out later on why the seven of them must be the ones to stop IT/Pennywise. The adults aren't going to do anything about it since they just keep looking away and that IT/Pennywise has control over them.

This is explained better in the book but could've been better explained in the movie. It's there though. You just have to "read between the lines." And IT/Pennywise doesn't really have control over the cat or animals unless he really wants to. Animals can't exactly communicate/talk to humans, so there is no need for IT/Pennywise to control them unless he wants to use them to go after someone. That explains why the cat is able to sense danger and the old lady doesn't really do anything.

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ALRIGHT the last part of your comment has to be the meaning of life:

By seeing that the CAT reacts but not the WOMAN shows us in a subtle way that Pennywise controls her/adults so they don't help the kids.

Thanks! Now I think better of that scene.

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The scene was perfect! I was explaining to my teen about the town and how adults ignored what was going on around them. I explained the history of IT. He hasn't read the book and I wanted him to have the back story in case the movie left it out. So that cut away scene made perfect sense. My son caught it too and glanced at me for a second quietly saying "oh your right!!"

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I personally could not be more satisfied with this scene. The novel and 1990 version aside, I assumed the trailers had shown everything (or gave you the basic idea) there was to see from that scene. Obviously I know what's going to happen, but what did surprised and impressed me - and fortunately I kept myself from watching the clips released online - was how this turned out to be a fuller and more sinister scene than I had expected. The acting, build up, and ultimately IT tearing Georgie and taking him away was downright chilling.

As for cutting away to the older lady and her cat, I won't deny that it does take you out of the intense moment. Yet, I don't think it was unnecessary. Although it seems as though the lady genuinely didn't see or hear what was happening, as everyone else has said her purpose in the scene was to show how the adults were made to look away as they were being affected by It. 'It' was a bit of a surprising decision and I appreciated. This is a wicked good scene overall.

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I really enjoyed the opening scene as well. I also really love the aerial/plan shots with the rain falling down. My only problem was that it felt the interaction could of been a little longer... and IT didn't really start screaming "You'll float too!!"

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I loved the shots of him playing in the rain and especially the shot from above with the rain falling with the music. That image of the rain falling up above summed up the feeling of the magic of playing in the rain as a child. That whole feeling. Who did not want to go splashing in the rain as a kid. It was a great contrast and set up to what happens a few moments later. Regarding the attack scene it was definitely a wow. Who else loved the clowns arm elongating out and grabbing George. That was creepy and just points out once more this is a thing and not human.

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The reason they kept showing adults is to show how cowardly and uninvolved they were when they see sobering strange or even bullying before them, they see no evil, and hear no evil.

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I thought you were going to mention how, at one point, it seemed the boat was going against the flow of the water. That bothered me.

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But then in the full movie that I finally saw, there's this god damn difference in that scene where half way in, it CUTS to this old woman and her cat living in the house that is just infront of where Georgie is talking into the sewer drain to Pennywise.

That cut is there to show you the lady would recognize the kid fell in the sewer which every one seems to believe in the movie. I don't think she saw the actual carnage. Just noticed a kid was there then gone ready to report what she saw when the missing child report came out.

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