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Why is Artie the Strongest Man in the World showing up in all these chick flicks


He was in Ghostbusters 2016 and has a tweet stating "We are the ones who told Paul Feig to make it (Ghostbusters 2016) about the ladies this time and not us

Now he shows up in the Ultra Feminist Halloween 2018, it seems he has a knack for showing up in Feminist Remakes of Classic Guy Films

I even read a Janene Garoflo interview where she says she took a role in Pete and Pete specifically because of her admiration for Toby Huss

Say it isn't so Artie the Strongest Man in the World has been in bed with the likes of the Rosie O Donnell's, Janene Garoflo's and Paul Feig's this whole time.

More like Artie the Biggest Cuck in the World Amiright

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Artie can prep and clean the bull faster than a speeding fluffer.

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Wow....show us on the doll where the scary woman DIDN'T touch you.

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I don't really see Halloween as that feminist. Not any more so than any other slasher movie anyway.

The only real difference between this and any other slasher is that this had three final girls, rather than one. Does adding a couple of extra women really make it a feminist movie?

Slasher films almost always have a lead female who kicks the killer's ass at the end of the movie, and nobody thinks much of it. That was a standard trope in the 1980s, and yet somehow when it happens in 2018 we act like it's an innovative pro-female agenda.

Was Halloween H20 a super-feminist film as well, because that had Jamie Lee Curtis surviving at the end too?

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"Ultimately as we are learning in so many areas" says returning star Jamie Lee Curtis "Women are trying to take back the narrative in their own lives from men who have abused them in myriad ways"

In other words looking back on Halloween Jamie Lee and Hollywood producers hate looking back on the original with a helpless girl being stalked by a big strong man and needing another man in Dr. Loomis to save her so they came back 40 years later to fix the narrative. Thats why you have the Doctor Twist in this movie cuz Jamie Lee aint need no man girlfriend

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Make no mistake this movie's message is you are sexist for liking the original Halloween and we are here to fix it

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I wasn't saying there wasn't a feminist message, because that was how it was advertised. Just that I thought it was being oversold.

I struggled to understand why adding two extra final girls made a movie more feminist. It's still about Laurie Strode vs Michael Myers, adding extra females doesn't really change the dynamic that much, was my point. It's not like they could resurrect Donald Pleasence to have him for extra "male value".

Saying that, Jamie Lee Curtis' point is a good one. With the MeToo movement and everything that's happening with that (good and bad), Laurie's struggle with PTSD and having to face Michael Myers could be seen as an allegory for that.

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Just like how Molly Ringwald has disowned the Breakfast Club Jamie Lee disowned Halloween and the term "Scream Queen" years ago and now with all the MeToo movements and whatnot she took her opportunity to secretly undermine the Original that she has been dieing to do all these years.

Halloween 1978 was scary because it was a helpless girl against a brutal serial killer that could happen in your neighborhood same as why people will classify The Terminator 1984 as horror while the Terminator 2 is only regarded as an action movie because the dynamic with Sarah Connor changes. So looking back at the original it takes away the fear factor because in the back of your mind you know Laurie is gonna be kicking Michael's ass for 40 years

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So, she disowned it despite literally appearing in a show called Scream Queens?

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But she did H20 in 1998, waaaaay before #metoo was a thing, and has pretty much been an ambassador for the genre ever since.

She turned away from her 70s/80s SQ image because she wanted to break into other, meatier roles - she played final girl/damsel in distress in Halloween, Halloween II, Prom Night, Terror Train, The Fog, and Road Games - sure you'd want a change too if you did all that over the course of three years.

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It's well documented on the internt she did H20 for the paycheck

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It well documented that that's how it turned out *after* script changes she didn't like. She expressed interest in returning before any of that was finalized.

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https://ew.com/movies/2018/10/20/halloween-jamie-lee-curtis-2/

She was at a point that she had done nothing out of note or gotten a big payday since True Lies when she realized Halloween was about to be 20 years old and felt she was Jamie Lee Curtis and she is better than all the rest of the Fodder Teens in 80's Horror and deserved more money.

so she called up everybody she had to to ruin the Michael Myers Mytho's and Canon and make the Halloween Franchise all about her after she had disowned the entire the entire horror genre years before but now that she needed a shot in the arm to keep up her Fame and Riches she wanted the entire franchise to just come to a screehing halt to accomadate her.

Now 20 years later she is doing it again this time to boost her money, fame and also political standing among her Hollywood peers and as a result the Franchise is absolutely torn apart and that's the whole problem with the Halloween Franchise is one of their Teen Fodder feels she is better than the Franchise and won't let it go because in all reality it's all she really has besides True Lies

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You're making some huge leaps there, but it's great that you've learned how to determine someone's deepest money-grabbing intentions from an interview.

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Actually i found the interview after determining her deepest money grabbing intentions. All it takes is a step outside Fanboyism and into common sense

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Good job I'm not a fanboy then, but your logic doesn't really follow - you decided in advance you didn't like her for whatever reasons then sought something that supported your view. Equally, someone who loves her could look at that very same interview and say she came back and saved the series. Twice.

The balanced argument would be that the series has helped her at the beginning and in turn she's helped it when it was struggling. It's an industry, both 'sides' profit.

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Today, movies only exist for their agendas. It has to be pro-feminist, pro-gay, anti-police, etc. to get made.

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So true friend! I felt sexually intimidated by 3 females burning our brother Micheal, must be feminist!

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