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Oceanside wasn't really needed after all the build up

posted 6 years ago by Mister Babadook (2630)
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They spent a long time trying to get Oceanside to help in the war against Negan, and they kept refusing, Aaron spent days in the woods nearly dying to get them to agree to join the fight. So its like "Ok all this build up and they're gonna charge in and turn the fight around and help Rick and co defeat Negan when it seems like all hope is lost".

But what they did wasn't really that impactful on the war, ok they showed up at Hilltop and killed a small group of random saviors, a group that Tara and the others probably could have taken care of. I mean they built Oceanside up for nearly 2 seasons just to show up and do that?

I was expecting some Game Of Thrones shit like where the Knights of The Vale charged in and saved John Snow, but no they just appear and threw some fire bottles at random no name saviors and that was it. Had they not showed up Rick's group would have still won the war, them helping changed nothing, them coming to help changed nothing, at best you can say they may have saved Tara, but i find it hard to believe Tara would have been killed by random no named Saviors.

[–] winslow (1318) 6 years ago

That group can catch fish from the sea to trade with the other groups. Alexandrians are tired of eating tuna from a can!

[–] amosnomore (26) 6 years ago

O'siders are not only capable of supplying fish - they are also a source for the fresh clams Tara so desperately requires for happiness and sanity.

[–] Sandoz (2021) 6 years ago

Aaron's whole sub-plot of trying to recruit the Fishwomen was poorly set-up in both the final and the penultimate episode. It was all done for the sake of a cheap "surprise!" moment when the Fishwomen save Tara's group completely out of the blue. It looked like there might have been at most a dozen Saviours (but I counted only about 6 or 7, I think) attacking Hilltop anyway, so why did Tara and the group need to flee the formidable sanctuary they had there? They could have easily held off the attack until Rick and Maggie returned. And even if their defense wasn't succeeding, the Fishwomen could have still showed up and threw fire at them and saved the day.

[–] xfool (932) 6 years ago

They have no guns so there really nothing much they could have done anyway. They would have been slaughter by Negan later if not for Eugene sabotage

[–] jriddle73 (338) 6 years ago

Their appearance was hilarious. They've just arrived and have no idea what's even going on--they just show up and start chucking these super-Molotov cocktails at people.

[–] chefao (416) 6 years ago

More like Molotov-mortars

[–] jriddle73 (338) 6 years ago

lol. Yeah, you won't find much you can pour into a Molotov that will incinerate a quarter of an acre and send flames 40 feet into the air.

[–] Sandoz (2021) 6 years ago

Well, there is, but you'd have to fill up like a 5 gallon water bottle and then find some way to launch it. But then it would be something else entirely and not fit the definition of a Molotov Cocktail anymore.

[–] AnubisRaydeen (7897) 6 years ago

Aye! `Not only were they irrelevant to the war effort but also how did they know the people they were using their pyrokinesis on were even Saviors? That could have been the O'siders betraying Hilltop for all we know.
It also bothers me how all these WD scenes are framed like they have trading cards in mind instead of anything resembling reality. The O'siders are throwing their mini nukes from the tree-line and then we get a shot of all of them clustered together touching shoulders. Yeah, makes sense to be that close to each other holding and throwing flammables. Same thing with the Savior shooting line ambush. Complete foolishness for the sake of getting a picture. (I have a long history of hating this kind of directing)
They should have shown the Saviors butchering them and Tara's group shows up to save them.

[–] jriddle73 (338) 6 years ago

The geography of those scenes was also incredibly badly done. The Savior firing-line seems to come up behind Rick and co. Negan and his lieutenants, meanwhile, are over a hill in front of them. Neither Rick's group nor Negan's contingent can see one another, yet when the firing-line in the rear opens up and their guns explode, Negan's people also fire and have their guns explode, though they can't have any targets in sight, and Rick orders a forward charge, though he can't know there's anyone there.

[–] AnubisRaydeen (7897) 6 years ago

So true! Negan was using his invisible PA system from out of sight yet he is still standing in the same place when he takes his shot. How does this make it through the editing room?

[–] jriddle73 (338) 6 years ago

The problem with in the staging of the scene when it was shot--lousy direction--and it may go back even further to unclear writing. The editors wouldn't have been able to fix it.

[–] lennonforever (2453) 6 years ago

yep, they were little help

[–] gbu (557) 6 years ago

Ive no idea why Tara and the others ran from the Hilltop out into the woods, there was only a few cars turning up and they had the place well defended and could easily of took the saviours out from there high vantage point.

Was a ridiculous plot point and only seemed to be shown that way so the fishpeople had reason to turn up cos im sure Tara's crew could of just as easily thrown Molotovs and had the same outcome!

[–] lennonforever (2453) 6 years ago

Tara is a useless tool

[–] Maikowski (57) 6 years ago

Same feeling. It was pushed and totally unnecessary. It looked like a joke and lazy writing.