A few questions - Major Spoilers


Regrettably, I abstained from watching this until this past weekend because my husband said it would be too difficult for me to handle. I can be squeamish, but not when it's artful, e.g. The Silence of the Lambs. While I respect my spouse's trying to protect me, I think he was mistaken, since I have watched this six times since last weekend ??? I love it that much. I am practically in awe for it and, truth be told, I should have trusted my Fincher-loving-instincts and seen it in the cinema. Anyway, I have a couple of questions that I cannot seem to answer.

1. Why did Martin kill the cat? To harass and terrorize him? Did he think Mikael really had such an affinity for a stray? Was he watching him that often? I didn't feel the viewers had the sense that he was so fond of it. At least I didn't. Was the killing of the cat done perhaps to scare him off?

2. Who was sending Henrick the greenery pressings? If it was Martin how did he know about them? If it was Harriet, why did Henrick not suppose she could have been alive?

3. Whyyyyyyyy does Mikael go into Martin's house at the end after he has begun to fall down the hill, when Martin discovers him?

4. Why does Martin try to shoot and kill Mikael midway(ish) through the film?

5. Why does Lisbeth try to kill her father? Was he molesting/abusing her too? Is she truly crazy? I think not unless abused or assaulted herself.

6. Why doesn't Martin go for broke and shoot Lisbeth, then presumably Mikael, instead of running away? He seems to be an avid gun collector and even has one out in the kitchen since he had just returned from hunting it seems, when he stumbles upon Mikeal falling on the hill?

7. Least importantly, why does the female clerk at Vanger industries seem to detest Lisbeth? What does she care if Lisbeth combs the files?

I have not read the books and may in the future, but for now I would particularly love any insight as to the story told in the film. As I mentioned, I may read the books later, but my love of the cinematography, score, direction, casting, acting and tone are what I truly love about this story

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I saw the movie months ago but I hope I can answer some of your questions at least from my point of view.

1. Yes he wanted to scare Mikael so he tried to kill the things he was growing fond of (as well as the audience, is basically a tactic that a character in a unknown land or place serves as the audience introduction for that place) so he killed the cat.

2. It was Harriet but he thought she was kidnapped or dead if my memory serves me right, and it might seem like some twisted game that a family member might do (as he knew how cruel they could be).

3. It's one of my favorite things in the movie how Fincher plays with the correctness in society can get the best of some people and like Martin explains he didn't force him to come in, he just kindly ask him to go in, I'm sure if I see it again I might be able to answer this question better but unfortunately for the moment that's all that I recall.

4. I think he was trying to scare him but like I already mention I don't remember very well, also It might be because he wanted him out of the case and he had already killed many before.

5. They explore that in the sequels yes, books and the first film adaptations, I would suggest watching those movies or reading the books if you don't want spoilers, I personally prefer the Fincher version because of Fincher himself, but the original movies are very good, if she is crazy or not is a bit complex, yes she is not a functional member of society and will never be, has a very hard time dealing with her feelings and other people and even considering other people "people" instead of just objects, so technically yes, in a medical point of view she is crazy, but I think it's a bit complicated (which makes the movie even better).

6. Unfortunately I don't remember that part, sorry.

7.It's either just a character trait or it had to do something with the fact that Martin knew she was there and owned the place, perhaps.

I prefer the Fincher versiĆ³n por the language that Fincher uses to express the story and all that comes from that (cast, soundtrack, etc)

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Not sure I remember enough to answer all of your questions, but definitely can reply to some:

1. Not sure, but I think he was trying to scare him away and get him to stop looking into the past.

2. Harriet was sending the plants/greenery, but he thought it was the killer taunting him, because he was sure Harriet was dead.

5. It helps if you have read the books or see the second and third movies (either the Swedish versions or if they are ever made to follow this one here); Lisbeth's father is evil and severely abused her mother, whom Lisbeth loved.

The story in this film is just the beginning; although the mysteries of the missing girl and the killings of many women are solved, the deeper story of Lisbeth's past and her relationship with Mikhail are continued in the other two books/movies. Larssen was apparently planning a couple more books but his untimely death put an end to that.

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I'll try to answer #6 since nobody has provided an answer yet.

And the way I understood it was the reason Martin ran was because he wasn't in control. He's a control freak. Martin spoke to Mikael, while he had him hanging, about how what he does requires meticulous planning and attention to detail. Once he scouts out his victims he brings them to his little basement and has his way with them. And considering his age, he's been very successful at it for a very long time. Well the moment Lisbeth showed he up his plan failed and he was no longer in control. So his first reaction was to run away. Plus Lisbeth rearranged his face with that golf club so I'd guarantee he wasn't thinking to clearly.


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1. To scare him off. Mikael cared about the cat just enough, we've seen it earlier in the movie.

2. Harriet sent them. Henrick was so sure about her being murdered (he thought no way she could've escaped from the island) the possibility haven't even crossed his mind.

3. The writer's idea was that because the society was too polite to say no to that kind of invitation; my idea is because it was a poorly written scene.

4. The same reason he killed the cat; he wanted to scare him off, and avoid the trouble.

5. It's not explained, but probably for molesting or abusing her. She wasn't portrayed as a truly insane person.

6. Because it was a poorly written scene. You're right that it doesn't make any sense.

7. Because she was the boss there, and despite that she had to obey to a obnoxious young girl. She had to show her everything, she had to work overtime and she had to hand on her keys too. She felt humiliated by an inferior person.

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Good points! Thanks for the input everyone. I wish there were more pages on this board :(

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Never again listen to your husband ;-)

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I won't in matters of film :)

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Fair.

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One thing I noticed about the cat was the legs were broke in such a way that the cat resembles a swastika. So he was probably trying to scare him and draw his attention to the living Nazi relatives.

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3. Whyyyyyyyy does Mikael go into Martin's house at the end after he has begun to fall down the hill, when Martin discovers him?

One thing I didn't see anyone mention was what Martin said to Mikael while he was hanging; he asked him why he came in...Mikael knew something was wrong, but human nature made him more concerned with offending someone by refusing an invitation, and he came in anyway. I thought it was a rather interesting plot point.

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1) Yes he killed the cat and left its body as a threat/warning for Mikael. It doesn't matter how fond he was of the cat, leaving a dead animal on your doorstep is still a pretty creepy/threatening thing to do.

2) It was Harriet.

5) He was abusive.

7) She's just irritated by her.



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