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How was that particular valley unaffected by radiation/fallout?


Sorry if this far from the love triangle centre of the story (not a big fan of that) but the question that kept/keeps running through my mind is: How or why was that valley not affected by radiation or fallout after a number of years?

I realise this is not the most pertinent aspect up for discussion but it kind of got to me a little bit. I assumed that fallout would eventually percolate into any region through rain, wind etc. (weather is inherently a matter of change) - or even up through the water table. Perhaps through a great deal of scientific ignorance on my part, I just find the valley itself the least credible part of the story - especially in the long term.

I suppose there is a spiritual/religious explanation but is there any scientific or rational basis for this valley paradise?

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Very interesting topic
i geuss the same can be put to why does a twister destroy house after house but one home survives untouched.

"Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions"

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Not an expert on radiation, but in all I have read, there is not logical explanation for what the writers set up. I take it as just people who wanted to tell a story and did not think it would be important to base it on anything with some plausibility.

Quit ya moanin

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I don't know anything about how radiation would be in real life but Loomis' character comments to Ann that the location of the valley, that the geography of the area or something protected that space. Again, I'm not sure how realistic that is

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This was my guess.

That the radiation was being distributed by the water. The Valley seemed to be about the clouds which they made a point to show multiple times. So I'm thinking either this specific irradiated clouds can't get high enough to produce radiation there (hence no spread of radiation) or it didn't rain there at all. I'm going for the former because otherwise they should have been more worried about using all the water over time.

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So many people don't understand what radiation and contamination actually are. Radiation is energy, the main types being alpha particles, beta particles or gamma rays (all are types of radioactive decay). This radiation is emitted by radioactive materials as they decay. Decay is the process whereby radioactive materials try to attain a more stable and generally non-radioactive state. A half-life is the time it takes for a particular material to decay 1/2 of it's mass. Contamination is the pollution of an object or substance with radioactive material.

Alpha particles are large and cannot penetrate much, they cannot penetrate dead skin or paper for example. However if you were to inhale alpha emitting materials then the alpha particles would destroy your lung tissue quite quickly.

Beta particles are smaller and can penetrate a little further than Alpha, most living tissue for example but aluminium foil is sufficient to stop Beta particles. It can cause cancer and mutation if living tissue is exposed, especially if beta emitting contamination is ingested.

Gamma rays are highly penetrative and a large mass is required to shield/stop them, the denser the material the better as it takes up less space. Gamma rays cause massive tissue damage.

All of these types of radiation have similar health hazards. Radiation does not travel great distances and diminishes in intensity as an inverse square of the distance .. ie. Intensity = 1/D^2 so at 2m it is 1/4 as intense as at 1m and at 3m it is 1/9th as intense.

Contamination is the big problem, contamination consists of radioactive materials as particles and that is what can easily spread vast distances by air (as smoke or dust), water or surface contamination depending on the size of the particles. Fallout is the spread of any contaminated materials.

Irradiated is not the same as radioactive or contaminated, Irradiated means to have been exposed to radiation, you get irradiated when you go for an x-ray or take a walk in sunlight for example. The clouds do not produce radiation, clouds are water vapour that may contain radioactive particles, this water vapour comes from surface water evaporating. In this scenario, scientifically speaking, pretty much any rain in the valley would be contaminated unless the valley had a closed weather system, which it really could not.

Scientifically the situation in the movie with the valley is just not possible and there is no use trying to figure it out. It is irrelevant to the story, the uncontaminated valley is merely a plot device to set the scene for the love triangle.

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Thank you.

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Everything you've stated is correct.

Only thing I'd make an addendum to is that it's not necessarily totally uncontaminated, just not as contaminated as other regions. Obviously no weather system is going to be totally self contained with open atmospheric exchange but the transfer of radioactive particles (especially once the fallout had settled, which happens relatively quickly) could possibly be mitigated to some degree by local geography, leading to more of the water cycle occuring within the valley (maybe not all the rain, but dew, groundwater collection etc). To a degree of radiaoactivity that isn't imminently fatal, anyway.

What a lovely way to burn...

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Since I saw "The Happening" (2008) I always use the same argument to explain this kind of stuff:

"It's an act of nature, and we'll never fully understand it"

Hey, if it worked for M. Night Shyamalan it should work anywhere else too!

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Simple.

Allah saved that valley.

Praise him. PRAISE HIM OR I'LL CUT YOU!

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