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The novel is 15 % of the movie, i hated the third act


I just saw the movie. The framing of the novel is oke, the aviator is still the narrator like in the novel but 85% is new. The girl, the mother, the old aviator iTS All new. But iTS okay. The third act though i hate. The eight year old girl get on the plane, fly it and find the prince who is an adult himself. Its stupid, even if its a dream, wich is never told.

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Me too. The basic idea of the framing wasn't so bad, but I didn't like the end they tacked on, that had nothing at all to do with the book and didn't respect it and its characters. It was almost like they were implying the book's ending was no good (it made the little girl angry) so they were going to improve on it. Not very complimentary. And it also just hammered home the same messages we already had, about not becoming a stereotyped adult with no dreams and fun etc.

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It was almost like they were implying the book's ending was no good (it made the little girl angry) so they were going to improve on it.


Well, the ending of the book is sad and it makes total sense that a child could be revolted or angry with this conclusion, as we don't know if the little prince has made it back home or not, or what happened to his rose, or so many things. The movie gives the answer to some of those questions. It doesn't imply in any way that the book is bad or not satisfying, it just offers us a answer to question the pilot was asking himself, and if his response was one of pure faith, so was the answer of the movie, but it was a more concrete and happy conclusion in the dream of the little girl at the end, that fits perfectly what you wish for the little prince.


And it also just hammered home the same messages we already had, about not becoming a stereotyped adult with no dreams and fun etc.


That's like the whole point of the book, except it was played in a modern setting and using elements relevant to the world the little girl lives in (well, we all live in today). She experiments first hand how the lesson of the book is relevant to what she is going through, and I find that really interesting.


I love the book, and I think the movie was great too, with beautiful animation, very colorful, an endearing main character, and a lot of respect to the source material while still making something personal and relevant.

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In the book the aviator doesn't really doubt that the Little Prince got home, and we assume he did as his body disappeared. He's mainly more worried because he gave the LP a muzzle for the sheep to avoid it eating the rose, but then he remembers he forgot to put a strap on it, so that leaves some uncertainty over whether the rose might get eaten or not.

In my opinion it doesn't make that much sense that he somehow got stuck on another planet instead of his own and ended up working for the businessman there, instead of going home. Also I think the ending of the film is not comforting at all, because he gets back and the worst possible things have happened - the asteroid has been wrecked by baobabs and the rose has died. But then we're supposed to believe that somehow everything is fine because he just has to 'see with his heart' for it all to be fine again. That didn't work for me; I don't think 'seeing with your heart' was ever meant to be being delusional about reality or that somehow just believing or wishing things makes everything fine.

Also the film never explains what is really supposed to be going on, at the end; whether it's a dream or what etc - she's suddenly able to fly the broken plane to the stars? Huh?

Just confusing and unnecessary, I thought. Would have been better if they'd spent more time developing the story of the LP from the book, because the stop motion animation was charming.

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Sure, he doesn't doubt it, but it is just pure faith, this is why he also asks anyone who would see the little prince to listen to him and do what he says.

In my opinion it doesn't make that much sense that he somehow got stuck on another planet instead of his own and ended up working for the businessman there, instead of going home.


Well, it doesn't make sense either in a realistic way that a little kid lives alone on a very very little planet, that he travels through space using birds, that he can speak with a fox and a snake, and pretty much everything else about the character in the first place. Plus, being killed doesn't seem to be the best way to go back to a "real" home either. And that's beside the point. In the last act, it's about how the little girl relates to the story and the character of the little prince based on her own experience, fears and hope, just like the book is relevant to the aviator fears, experience and hope, though in his case it's more universal of course. It shows that everyone has his/her own idea about the faith of the Little Prince. It is a reflection of your own opinion on the world you live in. The last act is how the little girl see the world she lives in, and the little prince is there to help her get through her fears of this world.

We are not supposed to believe that "everything is fine" at the end for the little prince. Sure his home is wrecked and everything, but he will work to make it good again, he is not going to just let things as they are, but make the most of it, "see with his heart" what can be done and not just accept simply the way things are. Same with the little girl at the end. She is not gonna let the world just crush her spirit. She will do what she has to do and still gonna leave place for her own personality and her own future, not just what society wants for her.


Also the film never explains what is really supposed to be going on, at the end; whether it's a dream or what etc - she's suddenly able to fly the broken plane to the stars? Huh?


It's pretty clear it was all just a dream. She fell unconscious when climbing down the water pipe and everything else was in her imagination. She of course never flew the plane.
Same goes for the book also. The aviator never really met The Little Prince either. Sure he was lost in the desert, that part is true, but everything else is in his imagination and his dream. A beautiful dream, full of lessons and reflections on life, but still a dream.

Now, you can take it litteraly of course if you want in either cases, but you would be losing the symbolism and the beauty of the whole thing in my opinion.

Would have been better if they'd spent more time developing the story of the LP from the book, because the stop motion animation was charming.


The stop motion animation was indeed beautiful (it's those parts that made me interested in the movie in the first place) but we already know the story of The Little Prince as it was told by St-Exupéry, I don't think it serves any purposes to just tell it again as a pure adaptation. I thought it was perfect to show us through the little girl and her own outlook on the future that the story told in the book is still relevant today, that it still has an impact. That is the real point of the film, and it did a pretty good job illustrating it.

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You make some good points, but I still think it went too far and so didn't really respect the book, especially as the film was just called "The Little Prince", so you would expect it would basically tell the story of the book. I don't think that would have been a bad thing because most people (especially outside France) don't know the book or maybe read it once and don't remember it well.

And I don't think the new end is less depressing, or less uncertain than the original one, because, like I said, the worst possible scenario has happened and it's not at all clear how the prince would cope with it.

Re. the end of the film being a dream after falling from the water pipe, I guess that could be it.

As for taking the aviator meeting the prince literally or not, it's true that you could see it as just imagination or hallucination, but even if you suspend your disbelief and take it as real, then a world in which the Little Prince (who's an alien after all and probably not just like Earth humans) could travel to Earth with help from passing birds.. still doesn't explain how the girl could suddenly be able to fly to the stars on a broken plane. The aviator in the story still had to repair his to be able to fly it to safety from the desert. So, it takes the mixture of reality and fantasy even further than the book.

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As of 2014 it has been translated into more than 250 languages and dialects, including Sardinian,[84] the constructed international language of Esperanto, and the Congolese language Alur, as well as being printed in braille for visually impaired readers. It is one of the few modern books to have been translated into Latin, as Regulus vel Pueri Soli Sapiunt.[85][86] In 2005, the book was also translated into Toba, an indigenous language of northern Argentina, as So Shiyaxauolec Nta'a. It was the first book translated into this language since the New Testament of the Bible.


145 millions copies have been sold in the world and 12 millions in France.


I think it's safe to assume that The Little Prince is well-known around the world. Of course, its fanbase is not as vocal as the one for LOTR or Harry Potter, but I don't think it's such a bad thing.


Yes, it's true, the faith of The Little Prince' planet is still unsure, but that's how the little girl see her own life. She still has a lot to do, but her meeting with the Little Prince and his optimism have given her courage to confront the difficulties she is facing.
What really upset her anyway in the first place was that The Little Prince had died in the story, that he had left the aviator, and she was afraid that the old man was going away and leaving her alone, just like her father.

So, it takes the mixture of reality and fantasy even further than the book.


Well, the main difference in the movie is that the little girl takes the journey herself, while the aviator is just being told the story by the Little Prince. But it makes sense in the film, as the Little Prince is gone and she is searching for him to help the old man. Sure, because the main character is flying herself to space, it can seem more "fantastical", but it's also obviously just a dream, and it makes the same point that the journey of the little prince in the book, albeit in this case relevant to the girl life and experience.
Anyway, in both cases, it's still a philosophical look on childhood and what we lose growing up, on friendship, on life and death, on society and its lack of logic and sometimes heart, and so on. I think it's still very faithful to the book, setting up the story in the modern world without trying to make it too modern.

I get that you didn't particularly connect with it, and that's ok, but I think it has great respect for the original material, it just wasn't what you expected of it, probably.

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Thank you for your posts. They helped me read the film in a more interesting way. So ultimately, it's a film about the stories we create, tell each other, and transform to suit different contexts and experiences.

Appropriately, the aviator's story was imprinted with the themes of loneliness, friendship and acceptance of death, while the girl's story carried over the themes that were relevant to her in a modern setting: growing up in a joyless workaholic world, forgetting the past, etc.

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It wasn't dream! It was a fantasy. And I really loved the third act, one of the best parts of the movie alongside the Little Prince sequences in the first half. That twist at the end that The Little Girl is actually The Rose was one of the best things in animation ever! I almost cried when it happen.

Nolan, I love you forever!

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Why do you think she was the Rose? The end conversation alludes to her being the Fox, because of what she says about being tamed: an allegory for making friends and emotional attachments.

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Why do you think she was the Rose? The end conversation alludes to her being the Fox, because of what she says about being tamed: an allegory for making friends and emotional attachments.


does it matter if its the rose or the fox? the rose needed the le petit prince as much as he needed her.





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Ok, i thought about it for a while and i just realized why people would think the little girl was the rose. i was really surprised but it seems like there are a few people who thought it was true

so in the end of the film (Spoilers spoilers spoilers!!) after they both return to b612 and find the rose dead, they watch the sun rise like we saw before - The only other time we see the sun RISES in the film is once when LP is watching it for the first time with the rose.https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/little-prince-cannes-film-festival-7.jpg
After that she turns around and sees hes back to normal for some reason (probably due to him remembering everything or something), and he says some stuff like "I remember everything" and Turns to her and says "she's not gone" and the girl smiles and says "she's still here"

However I don't think it means she was the rose, I think they were just acknowledging that he was able to remember the time he had with the rose and how in that way rose was still with him
besides it wouldnt make any sense because the rose was always on that planet both in the book and in the movie, how is she suddenly on earth?? and also plot wise why would she leave after they are reunited.
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If you want to get SUPER crazy with this already far fetched theory, the little girl being the rose could be possible if:
let's say the rose withered and died on the princes planet between the time he left earth and somehow ended up where we see him,
And then somehow she was reborn on earth as a little girl (And then she meets the aviator by chance and the events of the movie go on, eventually making it back to space to meet the little prince again, getting him to remember her and everything).
I'm not even suggesting this as a plausible theory. Just have some brain vomit.

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Agreed. It was going along well and then all of the sudden i'm like "whaaaaaaat am i watching." They went way off the rails.

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the movie is great brings closure to the book i must of cried about 7 times. truly beautiful

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the little girl was the rose

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you people really need to find your imaginations over again

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I agree. The story would have been better without the third part. And it was never told it was a dream. No, I didn't like much this movie (even if I like the book)

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And it was never told it was a dream.


Not everything has to be spoon-fed to you.

The girl was climbing down the drain pipe, it broke and she plummeted to the Earth.

Suddenly on the other side her stuffed fox is alive and the plane is back together and able to fly.

It is pretty obvious that whole sequence was a dream after she had been knocked out after the fall.


"Luke Skywalker has vanished."

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Yeah and by the end of her dream the plane had managed to get damaged to exactly the state it was actually in in the real world. I can't say the last dream bit of the movie was the best way to go but I did still enjoy it. I think the IMBD rating is justified.

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