Will Black Panther end up making more at the US box office than Infinity War? - Black Panther (2018) Discussion

[–] Bubbathegut (17273) 6 years ago

Its looking like BP will crush IW at the BO. I bet Marvel wasn't expecting this.

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[–] NorrinRad (5128) 6 years ago

Now everyone is trippin' if they think that!

No this is just reverse trolling.

Avengers:IW will build on BP quite nicely.

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[–] Bubbathegut (17273) 6 years ago

Nice brobeans! Although it would be weird if a spin off movie made more than a flag ship movie.

reverse trolling=lolz

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

Nice brobeans! Although it would be weird if a spin off movie made more than a flag ship movie.

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World Wide...Not domestically

When a film has a Historic ALL TIME domestic performance...Its not weird at all that another film doesnt make more...

now World Wide, is different...If Avengers IW fails to top BP world Wide, that would be disappointing....

but right now all signs are pointing to BP having a better domestic performance than the first Avengers....

I dont think any box office analysts or Fans really expected IW to top The Avengers 620 M domestically let alone now BPs possible larger domestic gross...

The facts are, the last 2 Avengers films havent gotten close to The Avengers 1 domestically....AOU made 459, CW made 409....the expectations for IW are betwen 400 to 500 Million domestically....

Black Panther is drastically over performing due to a cultural movement With the film...

Avengers IW, wont have that movement there for its Expectations can only be gauged by past films...which again mean A 400 to 500 Million domestic gross and a world wide gross between 1.2 to 1.5 Billion...

Nice try though, all ready hedging your bets....You see Black Panther is performing ALL TIME great so you cant get the thought out there fast enough "If Avengers dooesnt top BP" lololol

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

Its looking like BP will crush IW at the BO. I bet Marvel wasn't expecting this.

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actually BP will beat(not crush) IW at the domestic box office and thats it....

in every other possible way AIW will beat BP....

Avengers IW Will IMO have the bigger OW, I expect A 200 to 220 M dollar OW for IW(I predicting 215 M)

Avengers Will truly CRUSH BP overseas, BP is going to top out overseas between 500 to 550 M.....IW Will between 750 to 1 Billion overseas

Avengers IW Will easily Beat(almost Crush) BP World Wide...BP is going to make between 1 to 1.075 Billion....

Avengers IW Will make between 1.2 to 1.6 Billion (IMO closer to 1.350 B)

so ya BP is going to beat Avengers IW domestically by probably around 100 Millionish(Not crush, just beat), ya its safe to say NOT ONLY was Marvel not expecting that but NO ONE in the entire world was...

But thats about as far as the "crushing" goes...the rest is clear, Marvel expects and Know AIW will beat BP in every other possible way....

and lets be clear, right now Marvel is Jumping for JOY that BP is going to beat IW and is performing so Incredibly domestically, because If BP wasnt performing this great domestically, If it wasnt looking at a 600 Million + domestic gross, a 1 Billion dollar total wouldnt be possible.....BPs domestic performance is the reason why Marvel Studios is getting ready to produce its 5th Billion dollar film in Black Panther and reason why Its getting ready to have Back to back Billion dollar films in BP and IW in the same year

wow think about that....19 MCU films, 6 of them are Billion dollar +...and for the first time about to have 2 in the same year....

those are stats, DC fans can ONLY dream about....Hell at this point, we've got to seriously ask the question Will A DCEU film ever at any time reach 1 Billion?

forget having 6, or having to 2 in the same year....after BvS and JL, DCs 2 biggest possible movies didnt even get close to 1 Billion....is there a possible DCEU film than can ever make 1 Billion?

Will DC fans ever know what it feels like to see A DCEU film hit 1 Billion....Marvel Fans will have felt this Joy 6 times by the end of MAY!

I say no....I say no DCEU will hit 1 Billion...I say not until WB completely reboots and recasts the DCEU then no DCEU film will ever hit 1 Billion, The damage is just too much, BvS,SS and JL just lost to much of the Audience...

theres also another question that has to be asked, forget 1 Billion...what about 1.5 Billion...Is it possible for A DCEU film to ever reach the heights and have the success of the most successful MCU film...

The best and most successful MCU film is The Avengers with 1.5 Billion +.....is it possible for A DCEU film to ever succeed the way the Best MCU film succeeded....again I say no...If JL and BvS cant even do it when YOU COMBINED their box office(lol or maybe BvS and JLs combined box office is 5 million more than The Avengers) any way you get the point, you get just how pathetic it is that you can combine DC 2 biggest possible movies and Its barely equals The Avengers gross...

I say at this point, with THIS DCEU, Its Impossible for any DCEU film to ever reach the heights of the MCUs highest grossing film

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

Yes!

I just dont see IW having Black Panther type of WOM.....

AIW may very well have the bigger OW....but Its not likely or reasonable to expect AIW to have this kinda of WOM or Holds....

Black Panther is having Better Holds Than Avengers 1!

I imagine Avengers IW will open between 200 to 220 Million....

I then expect IW to have average CBM holds...which is between 55 to 60% 2nd Weekend drops....

So I expect IW to open to lets say 215 M....Then immediately fall behind BP and have a 55 to 60% 2nd weekend drop which would be between 85 to 95 mill....

at this point for IW to top BP domestically IW will have to perform better Than Avengers 1....thats just not realistic

Avengers IW....Will easily out Gross BP World Wide though....

BP is going to make between 1 and 1.075 Billion....

Avengers Will Make between 1.2 and 1.6 Billion(IMO probably closer to 1.350 Billion)

I kind of expected Infinity War to finish somewhere between Age of Ultron and The Avengers

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this is DEAD ON...

I see IW, grossing between 510 to 550 domestically...with an outside chance at 600 M if reviews and WOM are INsane

I dont see IW topping BP or The Avengers 1 Domestically

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[–] TwistedAcrobat (1725) 6 years ago

I don't think IW needs the word of mouth and PC hype BP had. IW is the natural culmination of the MCU [and Avengers 4], so it all leads to it. People will want to see it just because of Thanos

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

I don't think IW needs the word of mouth and PC hype BP had. IW is the natural culmination of the MCU [and Avengers 4], so it all leads to it. People will want to see it just because of Thanos

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ya but that only holds true for Opening Weekend....I agree OW is going to be Huge no matter what...IW open 200 M + probably regardless of WOM....

but good to Great WOM Will be needed after opening weekend for IW to have any chance at keeping up with BP....

if WOM is just good, IW will be looking at a 55 to 60% 2nd weekend drop....which will be well below 100 Million...

at this point for IW to have any chance at matching or beating BP....it has to have BOTH a 200 M+ OW and 100 M+ 2nd Weekend.....The 100 M+ 2nd weekend isnt possible without Great WOM...

So I agree, WOM isnt needed for a 200 M+ OW....Great WOM will be needed after OW...

If Not IW Will perform simlar to AOU....It Will Open somewhere between 200 to 220 M....Then Have average drops resulting in A total domestic gross between 490 to 530 Million....

Great Week to Week Holds are the only possible way IW can match BPs domestic gross...IW has to open above 200 M, then have 50% or better drops ....the only way 50% drops can happen is Great WOM....

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[–] TwistedAcrobat (1725) 6 years ago

I never take OW in consideration. Only the entirety of the run at a world scale.

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

I never take OW in consideration. Only the entirety of the run at a world scale.

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Wow then your either 100% wrong or 100% right....

if were looking at the entirety of IWs run domestically....Then Great WOM is Must for it to have any shot at out grossing BP domestically...

If were taking Entirety of IWs run World Wide....Then ya I would agree, Great WOM isnt needed, IW will make more WW even if WOM is average....

If WOM is average, IW Will not make nearly as much Domestically as BP but Will still easily out gross it WW...

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[–] TwistedAcrobat (1725) 6 years ago

It will make a huge amount of money, that's for sure.

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Which means it is a great film by default remember.

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[–] TwistedAcrobat (1725) 6 years ago

Bark more doggy. Roll over for daddy.

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Keep going daddy loves that.

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[–] TwistedAcrobat (1725) 6 years ago

yes, more barking doggy. MORE!!!!

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

@vinnytimmer (264) TwistedAcrobat (1677)

you guys the ODDest fights....

I remember your "The Dark Knight" fight awhile back....

your fights start off disagreeing then they get to this Odd stage like Above...

no one is winning

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[–] TwistedAcrobat (1725) 6 years ago

SHHH!!! I'm training my doggy to roll over.

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

If you remember the reason he got bent out of shape was because I told him I thought other superhero films were better than even the prime MCU films. I did not disrespect him or the MCU. I said I felt Superman the movie, Spider-man 2, The Dark Knight and Logan were better than anything in the MCU.

Now did I say the MCU does not have some gems oh absolutely not. Thing is then he goes on to tell me that Avengers is better than the Dark Knight because it made more money. I do not care if he honestly thinks Avengers is better that is his opinion, he was not tolerant of my view though. So then I said you realize I was referring to reception right?

I was referring to critical reception not box office numbers. If you go by average score TDK is still better than any MCU film. He then proceeds to say that Ledger's death is why it got rated high. I can't stand that because in being an MCU fan he constantly calls out DCU fans for being in denial. Well he stooped right down to their level by playing the Ledger death card.

Honestly Dark Knight is not even my favorite superhero film it is Spider-man 2, followed by Superman the movie. He just thinks it is because he has to put me in a box since I disagreed with him.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3377) 6 years ago

Well the trajectory for Avengers films is not good. AOU made almost 200 million less domestically than Avengers 1. That's a steep drop.

Civil War was essentially Avengers 2.5 and barely limped over 400 million.

We still don't know enough about how BP will perform internationally so IW may have a chance there...but domestically?

No way IW matches BP...and that may prove to be slightly embarrassing for Disney.

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

No way IW matches BP...and that may prove to be slightly embarrassing for Disney.

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remember about 7 days ago when you claimed "it was going to be really embarrassing for Disney when Black Panther fails to meet the dangerously High Expectations set by the media"

Good times

Well the trajectory for Avengers films is not good. AOU made almost 200 million less domestically than Avengers 1. That's a steep drop.

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whats worse, going from 620 M to 459 M

or going from 330 to 228M

whats a worse Trajectory, 2 Avengers films making 1.4 B+ and making 450 M domestically or DCs 2 biggest possible films not even coming close to the heights and success of MCU films....

just think how much WB would KILL to have been on that same Trajectory....Instead, they never even got Within HALF of what The Avengers made....

so whats worse, Reaching extremes heights and then coming up slightly shorts of the heights

Or Never getting close to Those Heights and continuing to come up in shorter and shorter with each film

nice try though...its clear BPs box office is truly killing you

Civil War was essentially Avengers 2.5 and barely limped over 400 million.

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naw it was Captain America Civil War....Avengers was nowhere to be found in the title...not one box office analyst predicted CW to perform like the Avengers...look it up.

400 Million + is over 140 Million more than The last Cap film, The Trajectory looks fine...

PS do you find it ODD that your talking about Trajectories and didnt realize 11 out of the 12 MCU sequels has gone up in Box office and made more than their predecessors?

IM-585 M
IM2-623M
IM3-1.2 B+

Cap-370 M
Cap 2-714 M
Cap 3-1.150 B

Thor-450M
Thor 2-650 M
Thor 3-850M

GOTG-770 M
GOTG2-870 M

lol thank you for talking about Trajectories...in your attempt to make fun of Disney/Marvel, You ONLY proved just how THRILLED they must be....to have 4 franchises and 11 films constantly going up in box office and clearly gaining New Audiences....Wow Disney Must be IW Will easily Out gross BP Overseas with a 700 M+ gross

and IW Will easily out gross BP World wide, BP is set to make between 1 and 1.075 B WW.....IW Will make between 1.2 to 1.6 Billion(IMO closer to 1.350 B)

at this point, Disney truly has to be jumping for JOY that Black Panther is performing so well domestically and Will be Happy BP out grosses IW domestically...and the reason why is, Its the ONLY way BP could make 1 Billion....BP had to have this Massive Unexpected Domestic Gross, or it would have had no shot at 1 Billion....If Black Panther Performed normally domestic, BP would have grossed between 650 to 750 M....

Overseas Black Panther just isnt Known, It doesnt have the ability to gross 600

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

to 800 M dollars....

Domestically BP had to explode, It did and now Disney is going to have BACK TO BACK Billion dollar MCU films....

Disney Is more than happy With BP out grossing IW domestically because Disney knows IW will be a juggernaut overseas, IW can gross anything between 350 to 500 Million domestically and still easily make over 1 Billion ....

somehow Disney got the perfect storm...If Disney could have Literally Predicted the future and picked how they wanted BP and IW to perform, they would have Picked for BP to out perform IW domestically....

again nice try, I know its impossible at this point to troll on Black Panther, hilariousl your now try to use Black Panthers Success to troll on IW....I get it, desperate time call for desperate measures, but once again you fail and you fail because you dont understand box office...

You in an an Epic fail tried to point out "Trajectories" without realizing The MCU films have maybe The best history of trajectories ever...

Next you try to suggest Disney Will be disappointed by BP out grossing IW dom. Without realizing Disney literally has to be Jumping for JOY, because BP only shot at 1 Billion was to explode domestically, IW doesnt need to perform great domestically and will still make 1 B+

PSS...

Thoughts on BP having better than Avengers 1 type holds...I only asked because you made a troll thread where you prematurely announced BP wasnt going to have Avengers 1 type holds...thoughts?

PSSS

thoughts on BP already at 403 M and Will pass AOUs 459 Million by Friday?, I only ask because just 3 days ago you claimed BP would be "Lucky to" out gross AOUs 459 Million

PSSSS

Thoughts on BP having the 2nd best 2nd weekend in film history, I only ask because you clearly thought BP was going to have a Sub 92 M 2nd Weekend and even started bragging when you thought BP was coming in in the "80s"....your thoughts on BP coming in nearly 20 M + over what you expected..

PSSSSS

lol Ok I'm done, I've ABUSED you enough..

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3377) 6 years ago

Gitesh Pandya said it looked like it was coming into the mid-80's range...I didn't!

I was simply giving you the latest update from someone you incessantly quote.

As far as IW's domestic box office ...already lowering the bar, eh? I don't blame you lol.

On the global front:you don't even realize that your worldwide projection of 1.3 billion for IW comes in LOWER than AOU..

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3377) 6 years ago

Haha...D'oh! Since you said CW isn't essentially Avengers 2.5(most view it that way)...your OWN projection shows a continued downward trajectory for the Anengers movies!

Oh man...thanks for the laugh today, Bill!

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3377) 6 years ago

PSSSSS

Hey Bill...you know your 1.35 billion WW projection for IW is a further "downward trajectory" for the Avengers film...NOT an "upward trajectory".

LOLOLOLOLOL

Adjusted for inflation it's much worse! But you'll keep saying all of their sequels improve on the previous box office even when you are predicting a LOWER box office.

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3377) 6 years ago

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

Hey Bill...you know your 1.35 billion WW projection for IW is a further "downward trajectory" for the Avengers film...NOT an "upward trajectory".

LOLOLOLOLOL

Adjusted for inflation it's much worse! But you'll keep saying all of their sequels improve on the previous box office even when you are predicting a LOWER box office.

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thats because I believe The CBM genre PEAKED With The Avengers

I dont believe Any CBM whether it Be Marvel Studios,Fox,Sony or WB can reach the height of The Avengers....

I think The Avengers 1.5 Billion dollar Gross cant be replicated, I think The Avengers was a Perfect storm, and that is the absolute MAX a CBM can possibly make...

I didnt always believe this, but my opinion has changed Due to Results, I remember back in 2014 on the IMDB boards, there were tons of Posts about Which upcoming CBM was going to out gross The Avengers...

at the time the options were

Age Of Ulton
Batman V Superman
Civil War
Justice League Part 1(at that time JL was a 2 parter)

I actually thought it was possible any or all could out gross The Avengers, All had that Potential....

but I follow box office and most importantly I'm bot biased and RESULTS matter to me....

The facts are, No CBM has gotten even close really, AOU made 1.4 Billion but had a BIG drop domestically suggesting, even after The Incredible success and overwhelming positive WOM of The Avengers, Hype just wasnt quite as high for Avengers 2...

BvS was another Huge eye opener for me, obviously it didnt close, it didnt even make 1 Billion, and the reason why is because it was Awful, WOM was Poisonous....It never had a chance after Opening Weekend....

But what opened My eyes were, BvS wasnt going to do it even if it was Good, WB waited until the last possible second to release the review embargo, People didnt know BvS was awful until 2 days before it opened....The Tracking wasnt there, the presales werent there, BvSs opening weekend wasnt hardly effected at all by the Awful review...Bottom Line, BvS even if great it wasnt going to open over 200 Million and was NOt making 1.5 Billion

that is a result I cant Ignore...BvS was Special...every bit as Special and An Event film as The Avengers, and Its clear BvS even if it was Good, wasnt going to have the success The Avengers had

Then came Civil War, A film that had excellent reviews and The introduction of Spider-Man, CW had the potential to have Avengers level Success....

But it too didnt really get close, didnt have a 200 Million + OW, didnt make 1.5 B....

and JL is just a throw away, It was doomed after BvS

The point is, these are result I cant Ignore....there were 3 films that absolutely had Avengers box office potential, and none really got close....

thats because IMO, Its not possible, I think The Avengers is The Max possible box office for a CBM, I think The Max amount of Audience that Will ever see a CBM saw The Avengers...

So while I understand due to your trolling and Immature, biased nature you see that As a Downward trajectory of MCU films....

I see it simply as Inevitable...This isnt a MCU problem or an Avengers problem...This isnt Avengers films hitting a downward trajectory, This is ALL Comic book movies not being able to replicate the success of The Avengers....

DC hasnt been able to do it, Sony hasnt, Fox hasnt, and Marvel Studios hasnt....

The Avengers IMO is an unreachable Goal...

it would be like comparing every film to Avatar...technically all films are on a downward trajectory because none has reached the heights of Avatar....but the truth is, Avatar is just The Peak, It was a perfect storm, Its May in fact be The Max possible box office a film can make....

thats what is IMO happening with The Avengers...

but really none of this matters...

your downward trajectory claims doesnt matter, It doesnt matter if The Avengers IW in fact makes 1.399 Billion and you think your right and the downward Trajectory "continues....

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

and its doesnt matter because you refuse to except results....

You cant Be RIGHT

if you refuse to except your wrong....

you've proven with Black Panther,JL and Thor 3....Its doesnt matter what RESULTS take place...Its doesnt matter how much a film succeed or fails, Your stance will never change....

The Avengers IW could make 1.6 Billion, and The results wouldnt matter to you, youd still have the same opinion and still find a way to shamelessly claim the avengers films are on a downward trajectory....

So unfortunately due to your trolling, You've lost the opportunity to "Be Right"....

The Avengers could very well make Less than AOU, and continue the Downward trajectory but for you that RESULT doesnt mean anything, because you wouldnt except the RESULT if they were opposite...

If Infinity War made 1.399 Billion, that continues a downward trajectory,

If The Avengers made 1.6 Billion, That would be an Upward Trajectory....

but you would refuse to except The Results if They were An Upward trajectory...

If I came back in 1 month after IW opens and bumped this thread, and said Well look you were wrong IW made 1.6 B, so much for your downward trajectory claims....You would refuse to except the results just like youve done with BL,JL and Thor 3

So who cares if my 1.350 Billion Prediction is less than AOUs results....it doesnt matter, It doesnt matter if IW makes that Much or Makes more...Your stance Will never change, The results wont matter to you

It doesnt matter if My prediction of 1.350 B is a downward trajectory, because It wouldnt matter if I predicted 1.6 B and it was an upward trajectory....You wouldnt Except the results...there will never be a point no matter how successful or how much more IW makes Than The Avengers where you EVER except you were wrong and except The Avengers arent on a downward trajectory...NO RESULTS matter to you...there for you cant be Right, because you cant be Wrong....No matter what the results are your stance Will never change

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3377) 6 years ago

Bill...I didn't know that you thought 1.5 billion was the max for the CBM genre so I take back my laughter as I see that as a fair position.

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

Bill...I didn't know that you thought 1.5 billion was the max for the CBM genre so I take back my laughter as I see that as a fair position.

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Fair Play...

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3377) 6 years ago

Truce?

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3377) 6 years ago

Bill?

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

no....for once you actually acted like an Adult...so I said Fair play....

no truce, as long at you troll and keep up your absurd childish posts when it comes to Disney and MCU films...I'll be there to point the problems With Awful trolling...

If by some miracle you decide to start acting like an Adult from now on...Ya I'm not biased or wont holds grudges....be we know thats not going to happen....for whatever reason, your Hatred for Disney and Marvel is too deep...You'll continue to troll, I'll continue to be there to make your live hell..

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3377) 6 years ago

Bill...I'm a fan of Marvel and Disney! I have tried to be as realistic as possible about their box office.

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

I have tried to be as realistic as possible about their box office

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if "realistic as possible" means REFUSING to except BO results you dont like, then ya

lol heres the deal, you clearly dont know much about box office or understand how it works...this leads to you giving AWFUL predictions, you Awful predictions then fail and you refuse to except that and relentless defend your Awful predictions...

Queen, In the Last 4 months, you given Predictions for JL,TLJ and BP's OW and been off be near 70 Million + on all their opening weekends

you Predicted 150 M+ for JL

120 M for BP

and Less than 150 M for TLJ

you were off by 56 M on JL, 81 M on BP and 70M + TLJ

how is that possible? like really its astonishing just how AWFUL you are...you are missing by 70 Million + on a near 100% rate

the reason I bring this up is, first its bad enough(almost incomprehensible) that your missing by 70 Million +, but the part that ties in with this post is, you are at no point "Realistic" after being this badly wrong...You instead Refuse to except the results, no matter how successful the film is, or how badly it underperforms, your stance doesnt change, it doesnt matter that the film Made 70 M more than you excepted or 56 M less than you excepted, If you were against the film before it opened, THe RESULTS dont matter to you, you'll still be against it after it opens and exceeded your expectations and all expectations

You are as "Delusional as Possible" when it comes to box office, Not "realistic as possible "

seriously...70 M+ man....were not just talking MISSING by 10 to 20 M, somehow you are MISSING by an impossibly high margin and a consistent basis.

theres only one explanation for that....You are terrible at box office....your not just "bad or not very good"...no to miss the way you are missing, you have to be one of the worst predictors of box office ever, you clearly dont get or understand how box office works that Why you are missing by such a comical degree..

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[–] QueenFanUSA (3377) 6 years ago

I don't TROLL! I call 'em as I see 'em!

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

I don't TROLL! I call 'em as I see 'em!

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lol at this point its in your best interest to admit your trolling....because if you truly are "Calling em like you see em"...then you are basically confirming you are an idiot

If the best you can do is "Miss by 70 Million +"....lol dear god

If you truly are trying, Truly are "Calling em like you see em"....and are just "seeing" things in such a way that leads you to give "Honest" predictions where you MISS by 70 Million+ time and time again

then you are confirming what I've been saying all along...YOU are an Idiot...You dont understand box office, you aren't comprehending tracking

It would be much better at this point just to admit your trolling

YOU MISSED by 70 M + on Star Wars, 56 M On JL, and 81 Million on PB....If these truly were "Call em like you see em" picks....You sir take the cake for the worst possible predictor of box office EVER...

Just be honest, it can ONLY help at this point....

Just say, ya I'm trolling....I predicted JL to make 150 M+ because I love DC and Wanted it to way over perform, I then continued to defend the film and continued to predict it would make 133 M, Then 115 M, then 100 M because I was anger and didnt like that it was under performing so badly...

Just say, Ya I was Trolling on BP, I read all the reports, I understood the tracking, I knew it was heading toward A Massive 170 M+ OW....but that made me anger and jealous, I dont like Disney and The MCU, So I intentionally made Low predictions....

Just Say, Ya I was Trolling, I knew Star Wars TLJ was going to open Huge, but I hate Disney, so I made some troll threads predicting it to make less than 150 M, I knew this would get a rise out of people by predicting such a low number....

lol admitting to trolling is now just about the ONLY way you can save face....You've backed your self into a corner here where due to your massive and continuous failings....you are either A HUGE TROLL....Or LITERALLY the worst predictor of box office maybe EVER(which means you are A Complete Idiot)...A lot of people get box office wrong, getting box office wrong doesnt mean you are stupid, but its the degree to which your MISSING ON, If you were missing by 10 or 20 M, you'd just be wrong, ....But the fact that you are Missing by 70 M+ at a near 100% rate...If you are truly trying and being serious and are MISSING by that much, It MAKES you an IDIOT...period...

lol Odd isnt, you've created your own HELL...

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[–] billbrown7071 (3193) 6 years ago

PS....

do you find it ODD...

that you are trying to claim The Avengers are on a downward Trajectory, which films have made 1.5 B+,1.4 B+ and 1.150 B+(If we count CW)....and you are doing this to somehow make it seem like this is disappointing....

Yet you are relentlessly defending The DCEU films and BvS and JLs Downward trajectory straight to HELL, which films have made 870 M and 657 M....and you are somehow trying to make it seem like this is good and everything is going great...

I know your trolling, I know when something is as successful as The MCU films are its extremely hard to find or think of way to troll...

but come on...

PS did you know Disney Made over 400 Million dollars in Profit on The Avengers, 392 Million on AOU and 192 M on CW.....

meanwhile WB made 105 M in profit on BvS and Will either make no money or lose 50 to 100 M on JL....

over 1 Billion In profit ALONE on 3 Avengers films for Disney and you are claiming they should be disappointed....

WB meanwhile Spends close to 1 Billion Making BvS and JL(800 M + on Budgets and Marketing) and Makes either NO PROFIT At ALL or makes 55 to 105 M in Profit...but according to you every thing is Great!

again do you think before Trolling at any point, I think I at least understand where you were going with The downward trajectory, again When your as successful as The MCU films, you got to take what you get, even if its desperate, but had you taken just 1 moment to think about it, you might have realized how much of a fail it was....

Given your praise for DCEU films box office that are on a downward trajectory straight to hell....It probably wasnt a good idea to bring up a downward trajectory when it come to Avengers films that all made over 1 Billion and all Made Disney more Profit with 1 Film than The DCEU films combined....

come on...queen

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[–] bond998 (1206) 6 years ago

I really don't care. Marvel will make more than enough money off IW to make more movies. But ill probably have a better time watching Avengers 3 than i did with Black Panther. BP bored me to death.

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[–] MovieFan007 (317) 6 years ago

It depends on many factors, the quality of IW and its competition is the most important one. BP doesn't have any real competition for at least a week, being a February release is working in its favor as absurd as this sounds. BP is more of a standalone movie and it doesn't require too much knowledge of the previous Marvel releases, something that's a burden for many of the latest MCU entries. With Homecoming this problem was minimal, a few inside jokes and references in Ragnarok that weren't that important to follow the story. But with IW just the amount of characters is an obvious tell that movie is the grand finale - and it's marketed as such. Which will turn some viewers away from it, and it will receive lower rating. Not a bad rating (well unless the movie itself is a mess), but surely a few points lower than BP's 88MC and 97RT.

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