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WHY do some people have a problem with white mercanaries in China?


The amount of nonsense about racism on here is ridiculous. if this was a bastardisation of of a Chinese story where the Chinese were replaced by white folk i could maybe understand but this is a NEW original story about some white mercanaries going to china and there's no doubt there were white people in China at the time anyway.

even if there's no historical records of white people in China then that doesn't mean there wasn't. i can't stand Trump too but people linking this movie to him are talking out of their asses.













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There is absolutely doubts there were white people in China at that time. The reason being western europe being very backwards at the time and therefore their population being less mobile.

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There is absolutely doubts there were white people in China at that time. The reason being western europe being very backwards at the time and therefore their population being less mobile.

The Chinese had been trading with the Roman Empire for centuries, via the Silk Road. After Rome fell, trade still commenced with the Byzantine Empire, and there are records of official embassies sent to China.

Sure, political difficulties in Europe and the rise of the Arabian Empire may have put a damper on relations, but let's not pretend that China was some completely unknown region prior to Marco Polo.

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The Byzantine empire was not really western, and in many way more similar to the muslim world than western Europe. If it had been common for westernes to travel to China between the fall of the western empire and Marco Polo, Marco Polo would not have been such a big deal! The reason Marco Polo was such a big deal was exactly that no know westerner had been to china for quite some time.

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Alas. Venice was not really western either, and in many ways more similar to the Byzantine world than to western Europe.

That Marco Polo was a kind of explorer is a 19th-century European myth. Other Venetians (and others) traveled to China before and after the Polos. China was far away from the Mediterranean but during the Middle Ages not unknown or "closed". What makes Marco Polo special, is that he wrote a book about his travels which became tremendously popular in western Europe.

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Venice was a part of the Holy Roman Empire and certainly western. It was a part of the roman catholic church. China was closed for europeans for a long time because the muslim conquests opened the way. Marco Polo could go to China when he did because the mongol conquests opened the way. When european explorers found American and travelled around Africa to India it was exactly to find a way to China after the muslims closed the routes again.

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The Byzantine Empire was more Greek than Roman, to be sure, but are you going to say that Ancient Greek culture wasn't "Western"? Figure that everything from Greece to Mesopotamia (i.e. Iraq) was under Greek and later Roman rule from the days of Alexander the Great until the Arab invasions. That's about a thousand years.

in many way more similar to the muslim world than western Europe

Mainly because the Muslims borrowed from them. The Muslim world was a fusion of Arabian, Persian, and Hellenistic cultures.

Now if by Western Europe you're talking about France and England, those were backwaters even at the height of the Roman Empire. The heart of Western civilization in ancient times was the Mediterranean. Unless we're going to assert that the practices of Germanic barbarians have a stronger claim to Western culture than the ancient Greeks and Romans.

The reason Marco Polo was such a big deal was exactly that no know westerner had been to china for quite some time.

He was a big deal because he wrote a popular book on the subject.

Travel to China was rather rare, since the journey could take years.

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What you write is true in part, but at the end of the ancient times, culture changed considerably. With the introduction of christianity as a state religion, change in roman warrior culture(from large infantry armies to cavalry) and the decline of greek philosophy and arts changed the culture considerably. After this the cultures of the east and west of Europe diverged quite considerably, and one of the reasons Byzantium fell was the chronic conflicts and lack of understanding between east and west. And I do also claim that germanic culture also had an important part in shaping the western culture. Maybe not in philosophy and art, but to a large degree societal institutions and the structure of the state.

When it comes to travel to China, the muslims actively blocked direct contact between the west and eastern Asia. This was to a large degree because they wanted to preserve their monopoly on trade between the east and west. As I stated, it was no coincidence that Marcos father got to China exactly when he did. He did when he did because the muslim conquest made direct contact between the west and parts of the mongol empire possible.

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