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Obviously not white washing


but the people who complained it was look so stupid after the 2nd trailer they will keep claiming it is whitewashing because they won't want to admit how dumb they were to overreact to a teaser trailer with having no clue about the plot.

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And yet the trailer does nothing to alter that interpretation. In fact it makes it more explicit. Except for those idiots who thought he was supposed to actually be Asian...

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White washing implies that a role meant for a non-white is given to a white. That's not the case here. If you don't like it cause it implies that a white guy some how helped save the Chinese than that's valid I guess but then your problem is white savior movies.

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Wouldn't any time the studio makes a decision to go with a white lead, or supporting cast, out of economic rather than narrative concerns be fairly judged to be white washing?

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If the story called for an Asian person in the role than yes but the screen play clearly is about a westerner finding his way to China looking for gunpowder and falls into this situation. It's basically a fish out of water story with monsters. It's a method of storytelling where Damon is basically a vehicle to introduce the story and a way for the story to be told of what is going on. It's no more white washing than The Equalizer with Denzel Washington being black washing.

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Well, Denzel happens to be as normal as any other ethnicity as either an ex spook, or hardware store clerk in the US. The reason he isn't black washing is he isn't exotic at all.

Now when you have a made for black television series that has a black hero, a black criminal mastermind, a black mayor, a black lead homocide detective, and a lot of tertiary white characters the line of plausibility in an American reality has been stretched to the point of breaking.

I'm sure you could conceive of a variant of this story that didn't involve Matt Damon, or any other white person, with nearly every other element present.

What it wouldn't be doing is pandering to a cinema going crowd that either needed a white face and a white story, or an Asian crowd that desired the 'legitimacy' a white face apparently brings to the production.

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There are plenty of movies with all Asian casts made in China. This one happens to be a story that needs a white cast member. This is being paid for and made by the Chinese it's kind of silly to say they shouldn't be able to make a movie unless it only has Asians in it. Or is it that you object to the fact that it's a white guy would you make this much of a stink if it was some African guy who went to China?

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Dont waste your breath. SJWs are not known for logic. Considering the movie is made by Asians, with big Asian actors, in Asia and the script, that was written for a white lead and a spanish sidekick of course its Hollywood whitewashing. And if the script called for a black guy, it would be called progressive.

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It called for a 'white' lead.. and a Spanish side kick..., and that is your justification?

Hey dummy, what made it call for it...?

That's just how the script got written by the studio!

Stick to ad hominem, your argument building is pathetic.

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It called for a 'white' lead.. and a Spanish side kick..., and that is your justification?

Because thats how the script was written? There is NO NEED to justify that. The writers can write whatever the hell they want. People arent here to bend to your will. Oh you are offended?! Im so very sorry, here lets change everything around for you and people like you. No. Thats not how the world works. You would know that if you got out of your little bubble.

You dont like it?? Write your own script, get millions of backing from a studio and put out your own amazing film for all the SJWs of the world. Until stop being such a keyboard warrior. You are a pathetic child that needs to learn how the world really works....justify, who the hell are you that artists need to justify their work to? GTFO.

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Keyboard warrior... Pot and kettle much?

You sound like an angry impotent little jackass.

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Keyboard warrior... Pot and kettle much?

You sound like an angry impotent little jackass.

Really...thats the best you can come back with. Not even worth my time little boy. Stop trying to silence people because you dont agree with them. Everyone has a right to an opinion, even an ass like you.

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Silence people? You got nothing to say, interesting at least.

Read other people's posts, like the guy I was responding to before you vomited your postings, and regurgitate their ideas - you'll be doing better.

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Silence people? You got nothing to say, interesting at least.

Yes, silencing people. You know what you SJWs do so well when you dont agree with something. I bet you are one of those people that think we should have 'safe zones' where people cant challenge you with different views and opinions. And again yes silencing art. Oh you dont like a white guy in a ancient Chinese FANTASY film, go write your own film.

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Keep beating your drum, honestly I am paying close attention to everything you say.

It is all very powerful and thoughtful.

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Yeah just like an SJW. Dismissing those that dont agree with you. Or trying to shut them up. Dont want to keep you, Im sure you have a womens study class to get to or a black lives matter rally. You are such a righteous white knight of the internet.

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Yup, yup, SJW, yup, yup. Insightful, and compelling.

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Ghost_Of_Me just smoked Smokey_T 😂

Social Justice is cancer. SJW:s are cancerous. This is known.

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He smoked me, hell I didn't even notice.

Usually only Mrs.Smokey smokes me, so its a surprise/

Thanks Ghost, I must have slept through it. Wake me up next time.

But hey, get Koettbulen to smoke you now, so everyone gets a good smoking.

Except for Koettbulen. Nobody smokes him.

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Again, the only reason this movie needed a 'gweilo' was marketing.

If the African guy would drum up international interest, be more marketable than an Asian lead, in an Asian film, and make more bank in U.S box offices - sure.

That isn't the case, so why build a strawman?

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