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The first five minutes really sets the tone..

posted 9 years ago by Pchanstitch
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The first thing you see is a heavily edited quote by Victor Hugo from Les Miserables. Religious references removed, but also leaves out the rest of the quote in which the character is justifying fighting and lying down one's life in order to reach the ideal world. Kind of ironic for an anti-war film. Then we see a cow being led into the thingy with a cattle prod...anyone in the cattle industry knows this is normal. Now, let's fast forward a few more minutes. We see some lions sitting in the plains. Pretty. What you DON'T see are those same lions ripping apart a screaming baby zebra or two males gutting each other over a female. I think I'd rather be the steer going the quick way.

But, really. In a movie talking about how bad humans are...and putting animals in such a light as the 'innocent ones'. Ok, so, wait. Death, killing, violence...pretty much everything humans do is present in the animal world too. Just on a different scale. Why is this being glossed over? It's ok for a hyena to eat a screaming antelope alive, but a human can't do a steer in much quicker for food? Or is the director going to start a movement to turn every carnivore on earth vegan and the joys of 'sharing the ladies' for all dominant male animals?

[–] mrfruitsmiley 8 years ago

Why are you basing your morals on what a lion does? You realize that lions sometimes kill their young right? So does that mean a human has the right to kill their newborn? Some animals are CARNIVORES, and require meat to survive. Humans do not. Sure other non-human animals do some fvcked up *beep* but that doesn't make it right or okay for humans to do the same. We humans are moral agents and know right from wrong, other animals however do not.

[–] partydjz (424) 3 years ago

What he is saying is that carnivores are part of nature. Man is taught that if something exists in nature that it is "natural" and okay.

Once a being, man or animal, experiences the taste of flesh (meat) it develops a craving for it, which also raises the question, why does meat taste so good?

[–] hyperjet (655) 3 years ago

Meat tastes good to animals that require it for survival (meat probably doesn't taste good to a squirrel or horse).

[–] partydjz (424) 3 years ago

I don't know what proof you have that meat doesn't taste good to certain animals, however if that is true it would explain a lot. Why are some animals vegetarian and others meat eaters. Humans can survive without meat but yet many will say they love the taste of BBQ ribs. Is it the fruit of evil? The temptation of the Apple in the Garden of Eden? Then what is the point of temptation, is it to exhibit man's faults and weaknesses?

These are complicated issues concerning the nature of man and nature in general.

[–] hyperjet (655) 3 years ago

Well I just believe it's the way the world works. I believe God has certain things set up to taste and smell bad (like dung for instance). There's a certain chemical in there that keeps people and animals away from it because it's dangerous. Yes humans can get by without meat, but many times the results are not good. Our brains require animal fat, for instance. It sucks that animals have to eat other animals, but there are many who believe fruits and vegetables have self awareness and feel pain so what do you do?
All we can hope is for an afterlife where killing is not longer necessary to sustain life.