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Why are there no intelligent movies these days ...


most movies that come out seem to be aimed at kids under high-school age, and the whole movie industry just insults anyone with a brain?

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Buddy, I was here reading the comments after seeing the trailer and just felt like posting. You reaction like everyone else's is up to you.

I like lots of movies, but comparatively, I am talking not really about movies I don't like, but the quality of movies these days, and the acceptance on the part of the audience.

You sound semi-intelligent ... so what are you doing reading the board for this movie?

The real point is look at all the money, talent and resources the US wastes on these stupid movies, what a waste of time for those who see them. If it were up to me I'd say every movie made, or every movie broadcast has to contribute to a fund to create educational movies. Historic movies that actually recreate real history. Movies that teach something, or inform. We have a majority of Americans who are complete idiots, and a lot of that is not because they are idiots, but because they know no alternative.

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> But I would never want the government supervising diets

Ever heard of the FDA or the USDA.

You right-wing clones always try to sound so relaxed and chill,
and quick to wave the liberty flag when it has nothing to do with
a subject, but maybe you are relaxed because you have no
real or deep understanding of the issues in this country.

You seem like the type to demand the government quit those
socialist programs, but hands off my medicare and social
security, when you do not even understand what they are or
the why they are.

Why would I want to, or think I could have am honest discussion
with that? Kind of a waste of time.

So, quit relaxing and start catching up with reality, which crappy
waste of time movies don't help much with. Sorry, but I am going
to put you on ignore because I don't these pointless back and forths.

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Interstellar is a very intelligent movie.

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This movie was plenty intelligent. Wildlife conservation, sign language, communication with animals, gene editing and genetic modification based in the reality of CRISPR, the craft and production value of the action, the designs, aesthetics, style, choreography, cinematography. For what it was, a kaiju movie based on a 30 year old game, this was a well made film. You're just too dense to appreciate any of it.

What you really mean is why aren't there more pretentious pseudo intellectual masturbatory movies you can make yourself feel good by going on about how smart they are and how smart you are for liking them.

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> For what it was, a kaiju movie based on a 30 year old game

For what it was, a "Godzilla"-type movie, it was plenty smart ... yeah, ok then.

You can call me dense, but a comment like that proves it about you without me having to say a thing.

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Having read the two pages of discussion i conclude
a) you like "soldier" over Bladerunner
b) There is no movie you consider intelligent.

I am currently watching a series of movies about learning to program in C# , is that the sort of thing you meant?
I bet theres some movies on youtube about doing Differentiation and Integration , which you would have to be very intelligent to even comprehend what it was.

But , given that in your Thread title you put "These Days" how about you just list the old films that were intelligent , that way perhaps we'll get a handle on the kind of film you are lamenting the loss of , and maybe suggest some similar ones you missed?

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> I am currently watching a series of movies about learning to program in C# , is that the sort of thing you meant?

Are you seriously asking me if a movie about programming is intelligent? You don't know?

I did like Soldier over Blade Runner. In that genre, I liked Enemy Mine better as well. By the way I've read pretty much all of Phillip K. Dick's books, of which one was the book Blade Runner was based on.

When movies became about aiming low for the mass audience, and more commercial, they got dumber. It's not a question of arguing what movie is good or bad. There are what Siskel and Ebert used to call "guilty pleasures" that everyone has.

I like a lot of science and technology videos, and political shows and videos as well, but I am not strictly speaking about them. What I am trying to point, and you nay-sayers are trying NOT to deal with is the inclusion of things that pander to stupid audiences. One example, of many, would be how movies show children as being smarter than their parents in order to wean children away from their parents and towards Hollywood and corporate products ... a new economic socialization process.

When you put stuff like that into a movie, other stuff goes out, rendering the movie less interesting to anyone with a brain. It's sad but interesting how many people seem to want to use any tactic they can to attack my thesis, including claiming that "Rampage" is after all intelligent. Whatever.

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I read the electric sheep too! and some of his others. Pity they didnt put the whole replicant police station into the movie.
"The Man from Earth" was mentioned somewhere up there - thats pretty intelligent movie. One ive rewatched a couple of times . The sequel sounds bad.
I'm sure there are movies with some substance being made, but there also a lot of moronic FX laden movies , because there are a lot of morons who just want to see explosions (Transformers being the defacto standard) - or blood and gore, hence the SAW movies.
I'm sure these types of movies have always been there.

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Something very complex and well done I just watched, I think on Hulu, maybe Amazon Prime, was National Treasure - Season 1. Really fascinating and well done.

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Certain Women was an intelligent movie. So was The Square, The Last Family, Two Lovers and a Bear and Rick&Morty of course. And that's just a few.

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Consider that in 1974 a movie like Chinatown was Paramount studio's mainstream hit... A neo-noir with adult themes and political intrigue at it's heart...

What audience would watch a Chinatown type movie today? Very few people.

As an example, consider Polanski's The Ghost Writer, which was released a decade ago... A political thriller about a Tony Blair-Type prime minister... No one talks about it and it was forgotten almost as soon as it was released, yet nothing on TV comes close to it in terms of political intrigue, what it says about our world and it's cinematic mood and atmosphere...

There is no audience, of scale, for this kind of film at the theatre anymore... Or rather, only a small one...

I think the hope is that we will have a new generation of filmmakers who will bring an adult, maybe gen-x, mentality to their work... And they will build a following around them and start to develope a niche of intelligent movies for grown ups...

I think Nolan is trying to go this way while bringing a mainstream audience along with him... Krasinski has made the best horror movie so far this year about the gen-x anxiety about parenting, A Quiet Place... So there are some pockets of intelligent filmmaking... And we still have the older filmmakers making an occasional movie...

Bit it will remain a niche, until the audience gets into the habit of watching intelligent movies and seeking them out...

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Well, I don't think Chinatown, or Ghost writer were good.

I can't take horror movies seriously. I don't think I've ever seen one, aside from Alien* with any depth, and even then kind of an inkblot.

Something I just watched was the first season of "National Treasure" I think on Hulu about one half of a TV comedy duo team who gets accused of rape. It fits with the whole #MeToo thing and is really intelligently done, and brilliantly acted too.

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They've always made popcorn films and they've always made more serious movies with intelligent themes. The problem seems to be you hoping to find intelligence in a video game adaptation. Go see Shape of Water, Moonlight or First Reformed next time.

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There are. They are just not mainstream because mainstream audiences are not intelligent.

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Movies are expensive these days ... where are all these idiots getting all this money to go see these garbage movies?

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Consumerism culture.

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hard to argue with that

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