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All antagonists are white male.


Can anybody name a movie that was released in the past 3-5 years where the bad guy wasn't a white male? Just for fun let's see if we can find one.

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The Kingsmen.

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Electro in Amazing Spider-Man 2

Brick Mansions

Non-Stop

Ride Along

Those are just a few films where the bad guy wasn't a white male. Nice attempt at trying to make a lame racist thread though.

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So, you're another moron.....out of the woodwork, they're coming. :D

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One was white, one was black.

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Can anybody name a movie that was released in the past 3-5 years where the bad guy wasn't a white male? Just for fun let's see if we can find one.


I wasn't able to find one, but I was able to find several.

Repo Men
Ride Along
Now You See Me
Kingsman
No Good Deed
Olympus Has Fallen
American Sniper
Fast Five
47 Ronin
The Wolverine
Takers
Prince of Persia
Lone Survivor

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Repo Man is from 1984 and the OP asked for last 3-5 yrs. Since, you can't do math, I'm not going to bother caring about the other films you listed. :D

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Repo Man is from 1984 and the OP asked for last 3-5 yrs. Since, you can't do math, I'm not going to bother caring about the other films you listed.


I actually think you looked at the rest of my list. I think so, because I doubt anyone mean-spirited enough to take the time to write a reply insulting someone for a single-letter typo wouldn't try and find something else there to sneer at, too.

Repo Man, which I mistakenly listed, was released in 1984. However, I was referring to Repo Men, with Jude Law and Forest Whitaker, which was released 2010.

Thanks for the correction.

Cheers, mate.

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The villain is still supposed to be a white guy. So, even the remake doesn't support your choices. Ooops...zing...

Not to mention, do any of these movies get higher than 5 or 6? Would the average movie goer be familiar with them? I think the OP was insinuating blockbusters and movies people have heard of. Try again?

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The villain is still supposed to be a white guy. So, even the remake doesn't support your choices.


Re-watch the movie. Spoiler:

Whittaker's character (Jake) was the primary antagonist. He instigates the conflict and mortally injures his best friend, Law's character, deliberately. He manipulates the actions of their boss (presumably your supposed primary "villain"), attacks Law's character and causes him brain damage, ruining him. Everything bad that happened to the protagonist past a certain point happened due to Whittaker's character's actions.

Have you actually seen the movie (or any of the ones on my list, for that matter)?

Not to mention, do any of these movies get higher than 5 or 6? Would the average movie goer be familiar with them? I think the OP was insinuating blockbusters and movies people have heard of.


I think the average moviegoer would know The Wolverine or American Sniper or Lone Survivor or Fast Five. You're welcome to start your own thread where your criteria are observed, though. You can name it: "List all blockbusters that people have heard of rated higher than a 6 that came out in the last 3-5 yrs with white male antagonists".

Cheers, mate.

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Whatever. In any event, that is not the norm for the majority of movies. The primary antagonist is usually a white person. The average movie goer would not be familiar with that movie, too.

In American Sniper, the antagonist is the U.S. government. The ones who were involved with the movie said so much. In movies in which the U.S. government is a focus and portrayed in a shady, sinister way, they are always neo-con white guys.

In The Wolverine, they couldn't go the entire movie without having a major antagonist be a white *blue-eyed* blonde woman - even though they are in Japan.

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Lost at what? That guy disappeared.

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No facts were stated. Conjecture was used to defuse conjecture. Who is the moron? inb4 I am because you've got nothing.

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You should re-read the conversation because movee clearly lost this argument. Not to mention, psychictuesday exposed facts and not a single conjecture.

The "whatever" is an obvious international sign for "it seems that i can't counter your present argument, but since i won't/can't admit it, i will try to discredit it".


People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs

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Oh, you definitely lost, hun. And he 'disappeared' because there was nothing left to say. 

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Whatever. In any event, that is not the norm for the majority of movies. The primary antagonist is usually a white person.


And so is the primary protagonist. Hollywood prefers to cast white actors for all roles, this is nothing new. They could have cast a black or ethnically Egyptian actor in Exodus, but they cast a white guy in ethnic makeup instead.

In American Sniper, the antagonist is the U.S. government. The ones who were involved with the movie said so much. In movies in which the U.S. government is a focus and portrayed in a shady, sinister way, they are always neo-con white guys.


Dude, whatever. Ask any audience member who the villain was and they're going to say the middle eastern terrorists guys who dried to suicide bomb American soldiers, drilled holes in kids legs, or the insurgent sniper.

Also nobody mentioned Lucy, the villains were not white.

In The Wolverine, they couldn't go the entire movie without having a major antagonist be a white *blue-eyed* blonde woman - even though they are in Japan.


Personally I think that has more to do with Hollywood's inability to make a film that is without white faces. Wolverine and the sexy henchwoman were the only two white actors in the movie, weren't they? That woman was cast not because Hollywood is out to portray white people as evil, but because they don't like hiring non-white actors for roles that clearly suggest a non-white actor should play them (again, Exodus!)

And you are also completely ignoring the fact that the protagonists in pretty much all of these films are always white save for the handful starring Will Smith or Denzel Washington. Almost all of the cool villain roles go to white actors and virtually all the cool hero roles also go to white actors.

Don't try to cash in love, that check will always bounce.

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Moovee_fan sounds butthurt. If you Focus(pun intended) on Sam L Jackson alone you'll see he played a villain in lots of movies, while the hero was white.

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I just say the truth, idiot. )

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I just say the truth, idiot.

No, you gave your opinion as a fact... which was then proven completely and irrevocably wrong by people who were actually paying attention and have seen more movies than you have in the last decade to base their opinions on.

You're wrong, and you lost. Be an adult, admit it, and move on.

"The triumph of intellect and romance over brute force and cynicism."

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Hey Jack, I guess you are feeling left out of the idiot party. Go ahead, feel free to join up with them.

It is a fact. Most main antagonists are white males in Hollywood movies. I was not proven wrong. In those movies, there's a white guy (or girl, sometimes) that is an antagonist. Not to mention the movie is not one most movie goers are familiar with. Look at the big budget movies or just most Hollywood movies in general. Of course, you won't and you prefer to display your stupidity.

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It is a fact. Most main antagonists are white males in Hollywood movies. I was not proven wrong. In those movies, there's a white guy (or girl, sometimes) that is an antagonist. Not to mention the movie is not one most movie goers are familiar with. Look at the big budget movies or just most Hollywood movies in general. Of course, you won't and you prefer to display your stupidity.


Who cares? It's also a proven fact that most heroes and romantic leads (in fact most characters period) are white males in Hollywood movies. This has been true for literally a hundred years. The main difference is that in the last few decades we're getting some heroes and romantic leads that aren't white. That's fine, and no indication of a problem. I'm glad you wrote back so that I and others in the thread could set you straight.

"The triumph of intellect and romance over brute force and cynicism."

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No, there's an agenda - and like you said, it's more increasingly apparent in the last decade. Might as well, stick your head back in the sand. You're a hopeless case.

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For a supposed movie fan, you are extremely ignorant about movies. You are, quite possibly, the biggest idiot posting on these boards. Like others have suggested, just admit you are wrong and be done with it.

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You are the biggest idiot and racist on this thread. People pointed out plenty of examples and you try to reason the examples. This one right there, "The villain is still supposed to be a white guy. So, even the remake doesn't support your choices. Ooops...zing..". So the producers decided to CAST a black man as the evil guy instead of a white man. Wouldn't that go contrary to the point OP was trying to make?

Jesus, go back to stormfront or the kkk.

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"The King of Scotland." "Hotel Rwanda." Some of the characters in "The Lord of War." Some of the characters in "Ninth District."

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Yeah, played by white males in make-up- why couldn't they hire a real Kree actors for Guardians?

BD Wong practically has a cameo in this, contrary to what the marketing indicates, he's barely even a character and he's only in a single scene (the best scene in the film mind you).

"World needs bad men. We keep the other bad men from the door"

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The amount of ownage in this thread is hilarious. 'Movie fan' or whatever sounds like a reverse racist advocating dumb troll.

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Angry white guy wanting to call it "racism" will say that Hollywood always casts white guys as evil. But level-headed people of all races see it as black actors just not getting work. White guys are cast 6x the hero and 3x the villain to black actors. In fact, if it's not Will Smith, Idris Elba, Morgan Freeman, Sam L. Jackson, or Chiwitel Ojeafor (sp), there aren't many leading black actors. So yeah, There's a racial disparity there as well. But why no outcry from the OP about that? Is he OK with the white guy overwhelmingly playing the hero but no OK when the white guy has to play the villain? Oddly enough, I came to this film's IMDb board to see how many comments regarding race there'd be. Two threads in and BINGO!!! Never fails... Or always fails, depending on how you look at it.

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' Is he OK with the white guy overwhelmingly playing the hero but no OK when the white guy has to play the villain? - you are clueless and oblvious, dude. There is a definite agenda and you sound like another brainwashed imdb liberal idiot.

Obviously, there are 'white' heroes. Non-white heroes always have to help them and the white heroes are always portrayed to rely totally on them for them to achieve whatever goal. It's always the same. Then, if you look at the overall population (proportion comparison)- I believe whites are in the 70-80% range? At least, in the USA - where Hollywood is. Anyway, you are the idiots getting 'owned.' You have no argument on this except to whine about 'racism.' It's just facts. I object to the agenda and quest for 'diversity' as if they are quotas and so forth. It's just PC-ness that is getting worse and worse all the time.

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Ah, there it is! I'm a "brainwashed liberal". It's funny that racists like you are always so quick to denounce non-racists as liberals. My wife and Mother-In-Law are hardcore, right-wing conservatives and hate how people like you have given people like them a bad name. My wife nearly got into it with a person at an Allan West event because someone just had to make mention of our mixed race daughter. Which is quite odd because Allan West himself is black.

I've heard black people with your same ignorant gripe about white heroes and black sidekicks. Their gripe is that the black sidekick always has to serve his white superior. So see, ignorance all around! Instead of just watching the movies you people break it down to race and then get upset when you think it doesn't suit your misguided agenda. You know why you people can't see past race? BECAUSE YOU'RE RACISTS!!! Also, add far add my being a "brainwashed liberal"... Liberal, no. Brainwashed, quite possibly. After all, I do have a brain. You, on the other hand, I'll just call ignorant. You can't be brainwashed because such an occurrence requires a brain to be present to begin with.

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@Moovee fan

There's no "agenda", dear. You're just the typical tired-a** racist troll throwing out bait and trying to start some s*** as usual. So predictable, aren't we? If anything,you sound like a brainwashed conservative paranoid right-wing idiot who's been watching the bull*** on Fox News for too damn long. Why the hell do you have such a problem with diversity anyway? And, no you're an idiot because folks on here have pointed out examples about how you're wrong, and don't know what the hell you're talking about. Last itme I looked, white people aren't the only people in this country. As a black moviegoer, I'm used to seeing almost nothing BUT white people in films because it's the norm. But ONE film with a brother and a white women kicking it with each other, and you fcking lose your mind up in whatever nuthouse you reside the hell in. Too bad--it's gonna be a big hit, and that's just fcking you the fck up, and I'm damn glad it is.

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@luckyboypro


Honestly, your question is irrelevant,and frankly, just plain stupid, because the majority of heroes AND villains in Hollywood films are white,PERIOD, because the majority of the films in Hollywood are made by white men, and because Hollywood is run by white men. So don't even try and claim that "only white guys are the villains" because you know that's some bull****. Just another troll throwing some bait out there to catch an indignant thread.

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