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Wouldn't she be wanted for murder in the US?


THe doods framed her for murdering her neighbor, right? It'd be hard to explain "Oh, I fled the country against my will"

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Depends. If she keeps silent and doesn't tell her side of the story, then yes.

People who commit human trafficking say and do anything to maintain control over their victim. Also, once her story came out, the police will re-examine the evidence. I mean, who kills their landlord, leaves the murder weapon for police to find along with all her belongings and flees to a country that the woman had no prior connection to without a passport? Or the fact that parts of the apartment were wiped down of fingerprints.

Not to mention that a medical examination would reveal evidence of rape and torture.

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I thought for a minute that it'd be the best ending to the movie if she walks back into the american embassy -- after everything she's been through -- and gets arrested for murdering her landlord.

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That would of been better than how it ended

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Dam right it would. That ending would have gone perfect with the movie's theme.

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It kind of felt like she deserved to get arrested as well for all the *beep* she pulled...

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Same here. It'd be the price she would have to pay for getting her bloody revenge. That sort of why I wanted her to get arrested. I would've liked to see if she thought it was worth being stuck in a Bulgarian prison.

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Hehe yeah they should of had her come out make it look like she was walking out and then sirens car pulls up. Fade to black.

Then cut to a prison with someone senior saying "you are going to be here for a very long time" then a slow fade to black with the words

I would like you introduce you to Ivan ..... and his toys....

Then have her screaming again and fade to credits

Now thats how they should of done it !!!

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Because her brutal murders were done in Bulgaria. Is it not normally the case to be jailed in the country that you commit the crimes?

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edited Russia to Bulgaria to appease the detail sticklers on this thread.

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She wasn't in Russia, she was in Bulgaria.

You're all assuming that the Bulgarian police will arrest her. Right now, there are only two people on the planet that know about what she did. One was one of her attackers and a criminal herself, so her credibility as a witness against Katie is questionable. The other is a sympathetic police officer who'd likely fail to file the proper paperwork.

In light of her captor's crimes, I think both the US and Bulgarian governments will give her a pass and go after the surviving human traffickers. Or, if they decided to prosecute her, she'd have plenty of evidence on her side to show she was suffering from rape trauma syndrome or PTSD.

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She wasn't in Russia, she was in Bulgaria.


Okay, she was in Bulgaria. Clearly I didn't pay much attention nor am I skilled in being able to differentiate accents from one another.

You're all assuming that the Bulgarian police will arrest her.


The topic deviated a bit, but I created it to discuss her being framed for murder in the US. Her captors mocked the crime scene in her apartment, more than enough to make her a likely suspect. Additionally she fled the country (involuntarily or not).

Right now, there are only two people on the planet that know about what she did.


Which also means all the people who could confess to her innocence in the murder are dead and in Bulgaria, not the US.

I think both the US and Bulgarian governments will give her a pass and go after the surviving human traffickers.


Since when do judges just give murder suspects passes because their lives are screwed up? If anything, they make much more likely suspects.

I'm sure there were other human traffickers, but short of admitting to multiple murders, she can't just give the Bulgarian government a list of leads without incriminated herself.



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Okay, gotcha.

Well, she may be wanted for murder, but the investigators would have to be pretty stupid to think she did it when they found out their suspect ended up in Bulgaria without a passport, money or personal belongings with medical evidence of rape and torture. Not to mention the fact that her assailants were in NYC at the time of the murder.

Once they find that out, they'll go back at check the evidence again. They might find something that the perps had left behind. People make mistakes.

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It'd be a thin case and I'm not saying I'd like to have the movie end with her in the electric chair, but it'd be well suited ending to see her at least being arrested for the only murder she DIDN'T do. Poetic in the sense that with all of these terrible things happening to her that it just gets worse even though her tormentors were all dead.

She's probably be the alpha prisoner in jail though. Make everyone her bitch.

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That's just not the kind of movie this is! This is about a girl getting her revenge over her attackers, to put her in jail at the end would defeat the purpose of this franchise.

I'm sure there are other films that depict it in a more realistic matter but that simply is not what I Spit On Your Grave is about.

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I did a terrible job articulating my opinion on this, so I'll give this another shot.

The short answer is: initially, yes, she would be wanted for murder in the US.

However, having gone to the Embassy in Bulgaria, told her story, submitted to a medical examination and got a lawyer, it's very likely that no charges would be filed against her and she'd walk. It wouldn't happen quickly though.

Worst-case, the investigators and prosecutor would either not believe her or refuse to and go ahead and arrest and prosecute her for the murder. She'd go to trial; between the medical evidence, the fact that she ended up in another country without any personal belongings (and I'm betting she never had a passport issued) with no prior connections, and the testimony of the Priest who helped her, she may likely end up acquitted or the case dismissed.

On the other hand, any good investigator would probably suspect something wrong and take a closer look at the evidence, find inconsistencies and either file a missing person's report or APB. If they reconstructed her movements and found the ad for the free photos, they'd realize the truth and suspect that she's dead or worse. When she shows up in Bulgaria, their suspicions are confirmed. Now, they'll still want to talk to her and get a statement.

Unfortunately, things are complicated by the fact that she tortured and murdered her rapists, and her friend's killer. When the US authorities talk to the Bulgarians and find that their suspects are dead, well, it's going to be a problem for Katie. She'll need a lawyer.

Now, she does have that Bulgarian police officer in her corner. He could, to make up for failing to protect her, lie about what Katie did and either put all the blame on Ana or claim that rivals in the human trafficking business killed them; people like that would have enemies.

Bottom line, Katie is more-or-less out of trouble. She's not about to talk to just anyone, and if she's smart enough to survive on her own and rebuild from literally nothing, then she'll know to get a lawyer and go from there; her story would gain her a pro-bono lawyer or advocate.

That said, if she did end up in prison, I can imagine her being like Rorschach. "I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!"

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She wasn't in Russia, she was in Bulgaria.



Okay, she was in Bulgaria. Clearly I didn't pay much attention nor am I skilled in being able to differentiate accents from one another.

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I guess my last post was too subtle of an explanation. Here's a recap. Before you pointed out that she was in Bulgaria there was another poster that did. Upon reading said post I conceded to the point that I clearly was not paying close enough attention to the movie.

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I didn't know until an upstanding good Samaritan like yourself pointed the error in my ways. Meaning, replace any of my references to Russia with Bulgaria.

Just for you, I have edited all my posts to read Bulgaria. Hope you're as happy as I am sad.

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I'm not sure how many ways I can repeat that I mistook the movie's setting as being in Russia.

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hahaha, are you trolling me now?

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You fiend.

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I thought it was going to end like that too. But I think that was left open for the audience to decide. My guess is that, she explained her side of the story to the U.S. Embassy, leading to an investigation of a human trafficking ring in Bulgaria. And since that one woman (the mother of the three sickos) was left alive, she would be investigated as well.

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im presuming that all the people that wanted her to get arrested where men !


im sorry #notsorry (lol) but if you where in here place and had just escaped after being repeatedly raped and beaten up to then go to the police (some would say the right thing to do ) the then be back in the same place getting rapped and beat up and then buried ... and miraculously became free again i think you to would also sort after revenge! i know i would!

its like you didnt watch the film or have no compaction

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It's like you didn't read my post or have no sense of irony.

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sorry think i pressed reply to one of the other posts in this forum x

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I forgive you. Still friends?

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awww defo hun

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Sorry hun, but she murdered like 5 people. She deserves to go to jail for the rest of her life. I don't care what was done before or afterwards two wrongs don't make a right.

She did the crime and she should therefore do the time. Or get given the death penalty.

If I was gang raped by a bunch of angry lesbians, that would not give me the right to go off on a killing spree and not have any repercussions.

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Why do you hate women so much? Mommy issues?

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I'm not sure the frame would have "passed the smell test" from the beginning. Yes, they put her fingerprints on the murder weapon but not in a position normal for holding a knife.
Also, he let himself into her apartment with a key (even if the brothers took the key - which wasn't shown or mentioned - a quick investigation would reveal he had one as landlord / manager) making self-defense a likely possibility from the start.
And they would want to know why at least one electrical (and I think two) cord was ripped from an appliance. The male victim was clearly never restrained. (If the brothers did later as part of the frame, it would quickly be obvious they were applied after death based on blood lividity.)
Neighbors may also have heard something, they made it clear you can hear through the wall in the building.

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I'm not saying she'd be convicted, but probably arrested or at the very least detained.

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I'd say that would be a certainty. Even if they thought it might have been self-defense or something else they absolutely would question her, possibly in custody.

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I wish they would have shown that. It would have made for a perfect ending.

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As do I. And thank you so much for correctly writing "would have" instead of "would of" like so many posters do.

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you got'dem pet perves dare son?

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I could swear she had carpet in her apartment so they maybe could've seen the three guys footprints

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No. Human trafficking is a real thing, and it wouldn't be hard to explain that she was kidnapped and framed for a murder. They would never find those men she killed because they have no jurisdiction outside the U.S.

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I'm not saying that she would be convicted by a grand jury, but at the very least arrested as a suspect in a murder investigation. One look at her vagina I'm sure any doctor would concluded that she had been subject to human trafficking.

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she could backtrack her Cell records, and the Photos , the tampered Apt, to piece together the backstory

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I'm not saying she would be convicted of murder, but would probably be a prime suspect.

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