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I'm confused regarding one scene---help me out here?

posted 9 years ago by sofianXmXh
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So during the last scene, Ivan starts to laugh after Katie assumes Ana is his mother. Katie asks what's so funny, and Ivan responds with "She's not my mother. Father didn't stop raping her until Nicky was born. I told you she was a sick *beep*." to which Katie walks over to Ana and says "You are the sickest of them all." I don't understand this bit. What are they trying to say? Katie asks her how many others she sold to sick *beep* like Valko, but I don't see the connection between what Ivan says to Katie and what Katie says to Ana.

[–] LeopoldGoeth 9 years ago

Basically Ana is the girl that lures girls in when they have escaped because she is a woman and the victims are women, she can connect with the victim and make them trust her so she brings them back to Ivan.

By "sold" she meant, how many girls did you bring to Valko by "selling them".

She really is the sickest but to be fair, she must have been raped thousands of times and she has lost her mind, this is all she knows and she obeys now, they controlled her.

[–] sofianXmXh 9 years ago

I figured that part out (I just re-read the OP and it looks like I included the "What are they trying to say?" part which I should've left out), but what I'm confused about is how Katie filled in the blanks. I mean, how did she draw that conclusion, based on the following line: "She's not my mother. Father didn't stop raping her until Nicky was born. I told you she was a sick *beep*." It's probably a goof.

[–] AceRoccola 9 years ago

I know what you mean. I had the same reaction to this dialogue. It's somewhat nonsensical on its own. It's easy to piece together the big plot points from the context, but that doesn't change the fact that the dialogue doesn't convey any real point. It's just three unrelated sentences strung together. And yet, Katie still responds to it as if it were crystal clear and each sentence logically supported the other.

I went back to watch the scene again because I was sure I missed some important line of dialogue or misheard something. But alas. It's just bad writing.

[–] sofianXmXh 8 years ago

I'm glad I wasn't the only one. But I agree with you.

[–] sarahmillsy 9 years ago

As an abused woman who by her own admission in the police station has experienced the same thing Ana knows exactly how Katie is feeling so to turn the tables on Katie and take her back to her abusers is despicable but is played as odd family dynamics when she says you tried to hurt my family. This in itself is excuse enough to be a bit pissed and exact revenge upon Ana but when Katie finds out that Ana is not in fact the mother of the two eldest boys and was in fact a long term victim of their father then that initial betrayal becomes magnified as Ana has become complicit in the process of kidnapping, abusing and selling other girls which does in fact make her the sickest of them all as she should have empathy for them and their predicament not be actively participating. It wasn't a goof at all.

[–] sxymommacitaprincess_227 8 years ago

Ana was Nikki and Georgy's mom. She was just Ivan's stepmother.

[–] roses888 8 years ago

Georgy and the blonde woman were too close in age to be mother and son.

[–] greenfairyXO 8 years ago

she was the daughter of the family who had both nicky and georgey. she was ivans sister. her dad was a sick *beep* who raped his daughter.

[–] senua 8 years ago

I sort of wondered if she was his sister? And the two younger brothers are her sons? Or like someone else said she's his step-mum and she chose to stay with the rapist father and provided the girls even though she knows through experience what will happen to them? It was pretty ambiguous though so it really could mean anything.

[–] Tyler-A-Arse 8 years ago

I was unclear on this also. Not exactly sure what transpired there.