Cami + Davina dead?
With cami and Davina dead does this mean Rebecca is coming back?
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Because they won't have to pay two leading stars anymore.
sharethey dont have to play leading stars anymore coz their story is done with. What has that got to do with Rebekah's return?
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If they don't have to pay the other 2, they could pay Claire. That's pretty easy to understand, hopefully, Claire is ready to come back more often with a shorter maybe final season.
shareyou mean they should move rebekah int cami's body?
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No! Cami's body is dead and buried. The OP is saying that maybe they have room now for Claire to return as Rebekah.
shareThat is what I dont get. What does Cami and Davina's absence or presence have to do with Rebekah? The writers/ showrunners didnt decide not to bring Clair back coz of Cami and Davina occupying her position. It was the actress's unavailability for long term which I think will continue. Do you think that coz of "too many females" Claire was not being brought back? Anyway if that were the case even then Cami and Davina both were not the lead female roles. it is Hayley so her death might force the show-runners to bring back Rebekah but not Cami or Davina's... Even then I think they will promote Freya as lead female instead of bringing Rebekah back. This bringing back Rebekah for one episode and insisting that she is played by Claire is so stupid honestly. Why not have another actress play Rebekah instead of doing this stupid gig with Claire again and again. I get that she is a very good actress but she is not available for long term so bring someone back IF this character (Rebekah) has some story to be told. The very fact that they bring her for a handful of episodes in one body or another and then let her go, shows that they dont have any story for Rebekah.
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They don't have any story for anybody at this time. They are coming up with ideas for season 4.
shareThey don't have any story for anybody at this time.
How can you say that? They might not know the detail of how to get there, but they know where to go. I am sure they knew where to go in season 4 once it was announced. And from JP's tweet it seems that they have already started writing next season.
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The tweet with the blank piece of paper? MN saying they wrote themselves into a corner, but it will be interesting to write themselves out. What makes you think where they want to go would exclude Rebekah?
shareDont know about that blank piece of paper but I read JP's tweet about getting back to writing or something like that.
MN saying they wrote themselves into a corner
hmm that is interesting. I wonder what corner that is and how will they come out of it?
I never had much hope for Rebekah coming back. If they bring her back at his moment that will be fan service. She clearly has no story left to be told. They killed Finn, killed Kol twice without exploring their stories but Rebekah, they keep on bringing her back and she does absolutely nothing except for give some incesty vibes with Klaus and then leaves.
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If Klaus and Elijah have a story so does Rebekah and Kol. If the siblings have no more story then they should just end the show. If they haven't explored Rebekah or Kols stories maybe thats what they should do.
So you want to kill off Elijah, forget about Rebekah and Kol, so it's who? Marcel, Hayley and maybe Klaus in the show with Freya appearing now and then or just kill her off too?
Klaus and Elijah have stories (remember that MN interview at the start of the show? I still believe that is the end of the show) and that is why they are on full time on the show. Rebekah does not otherwise they would have hired another actress and done a body jump or something to get her on board completely.
What is Elijah's storyline? be a watch dog for his brother or a love interest fro Hayley? When I look back the only thing I see about Elijah's story line is his involvement and pinning with Hayley. He had a few episode with vampires but they were never explored properly. He had one episode with strix if I am right but nothing else. They had a chance to explore his red door but they didnt just like they didnt explore Cami's human faction story. Saying that I still think that this show is about Elijah unravelling and Klaus redemption and if you look back in between his love story, they have shown Elijah slipping and now he has done the worst kind of damage. I hope that will be explored in season 4 and not forgotten. That will be his story.
On a personal level, my reasons for wanting Elijah is that he is one of those people who had made me stop watching the show. He is the most unlikable person on the show after Cami and Davina. With Klaus, Marcel, Freya and Hayley I have become indifferent. I would never have stopped watching the show coz of them but Elijah and Cami were the reasons I stopped watching it. Kill them and they will gain a viewer LOL.
Dont you find it odd that a character is supposed to be one of main characters but it only appears in like five episodes whole year?
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Season two was all about Esther then Finn coming for Elijah, Rebekah and Klaus. Season three was all about the trinity, the prophecy which included all the siblings. Elijah had just as much story as Klaus. Klaus with Lucien and Cami, Elijah had Marcel, the strix and Hayley somewhat. What story did Cami have? She fell in love with Klaus. What story did Hayley have? She lost Jackson and went for Elijah.
Rebekah could have plenty of story if they wanted to make it so, they just don't since Claire is unavailable. She has much more family history than any of other characters, besides Kol. And the Mikaelson family is what the show is about.
What story did Cami have? She fell in love with Klaus.
true and dont forget that redemption arc. hence they killed her after she put him on path of redemption.
What story did Hayley have? She lost Jackson and went for Elijah.
Hayley had her werwolves and second half of the season two was all about Hayley and her wolves.
Elijah had just as much story as Klaus.
Not really. But yes he has more part in season 3 since he is full time on the show. Season 3 is about Elijah's unravelling. dont you think so?
Klaus with Lucien and Cami, Elijah had Marcel, the strix and Hayley somewhat.
Klaus had lucien, Cami, Hayley and Marcel, Aurora. Elijah had Marcel, Tristan, strix (one episode), Hayley (love story, I dont deny that)
It all boils down to the major arc of the characters. Both Elijah and Klaus have that (Elijah is keeping Klaus in check and Klaus needing Elijah to anchor him as of now. Later I hope the show will be about one of the brother unravelling while the other finding peace in life). Hayley too with her werewolves (Crescent pack. Now that they have introduced those seven wolf lines. isnt crescent pack one of those? Why would they introduce them now?) There is a lot to be told about these three characters. Rebekah apparently doesnt.
Rebekah could have plenty of story if they wanted to make it so, they just don't since Claire is unavailable.
This could has caused my issues for me. They could have done this and that! But they didnt and that is the reality. What they did is what makes a character.. and that is the bottom line.
As for Rebekah I see it differently They have the story and give that to another actress or they have the actress and give her the story. Both of them are not happening so I dont know what to make of Rebekah's story.
She has much more family history than any of other characters, besides Kol.
true so why not get another actress to do this role?
And the Mikaelson family is what the show is about.
yes but the family members need to have a story and not just occupy screen time.
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Hey CeCe!
What story did Cami have? She fell in love with Klaus.
She also decided to take her family's legacy seriously and help innocent people. Cami helped every single main character on this show at one point. In the beginning of the season she helped Vincent and the cop with the murder cases, she looked into Lucien, she helped find the weapon Lucien searched for, she helped put Aurora away. Her story was that of a victim that fought back after death, and overcame her demons. Then they fridged her.
But this is a problem with TO. They have good characters with interesting backstory they hint at, but rarely never delve into. Even Hayley's wolf arc in season 2 fell flat. They glossed over her reaction to Jackson's parents killing her own. We barely got to see her with the wolves leading them like she did in s1. It was about the triangle between her, Jackson, and Elijah. Marcel, we could be getting flashbacks of him reshaping New Orleans and how he built it up, We could've gotten a flashback of him saving Hayley as a child. Davina, more on where she was living, what she was doing, more scenes of her leading the witches like 3x03. That was interesting. Freya, who we got interesting flashbacks of in s2 of Dahlia training her, and losing her child. Now she's there to babysit and be the token family witch whose knowledge depends on what the writers need her to know for the plot.
The Mikaelson family is what the show is about but it doesn't hurt to give the other characters more to do. Especially since the Mikaelsons consider them allies/family, and since they were main characters who got interesting arcs in s1. share
Hi Kjack!
I read somewhere the reason Cami and Davina had to go was to push the family together. I see what they mean, Marcel's attack on Klaus and Kol never would have went down as smoothly if Cami and Davina were around.
JP also said they didn't need 9 characters telling the same story. I take from that, they really didn't have, couldn't create, or didn't have time for, a compelling story for any characters but the Mikaelsons. Really, they never gave much to Kol, Rebekah, or Finn, so its no surprise they didn't have much for Cami or Davina.
The problem was killing them off in the same episode. Davina could have been killed last season with the Mikael fiasco, leaving Cami to die this season by Aurora and Lucien.
I don't mind them killing off characters if t h e y leave them dead and move on to new, exciting, interesting characters with new stories to tell.
But, I'm not sure I'll find much to like with season 4. If they wanted to destroy the Mikaelsons I feel they should have done it in tvd. In their own show, I wanted then to heal and succeed. It seems to me the wsiters couldn't do that so they created a stronger, unkillable monster to be the hero. I feel uberVamp Marcel is the worse story ever.
I haven't watched an episode since the one Cami and Davina died so I don't know how the whole Marcel/beast showdown happened. Sounds contrived.
I read somewhere the reason Cami and Davina had to go was to push the family together
That's bs. How did Cami or Davina impede the Mikaelsons from getting closer? The Mikaelsons are their own worst enemy. Cami, who wanted Klaus to find peace and patch things up with Mikael? Cami, who told Mikael to [beep] off and his hatred for Klaus was stupid? Cami who watched Hope? Cami who helped Elijah with his red door? Cami who told Klaus how much Elijah loves him (1x15) and he shouldn't doubt him (3x09)? Cami who wanted Elijah to tell Klaus about Tatia? Cami who told Elijah Klaus didn't kill Aiden? Cami who tried to warn Hayley about Francesca? Cami who pointed out how Klaus should sympathize with Freya?
I can go on and on. How did Cami keep the Mikaelsons apart when she was an ally and friend? How could they become more close than they were when she was alive? Julie sounds like she's making things up, trying to cover her tracks for her mistakes.
JP also said they didn't need 9 characters telling the same story.
LOL what?? What characters on TO are telling the same story?? Cami, the recently turned vamps story was similar to whose? Davina the scorned witch was similar to...? I give up.
I take from that, they really didn't have, couldn't create, or didn't have time for, a compelling story for any characters but the Mikaelsons. Really, they never gave much to Kol, Rebekah, or Finn, so its no surprise they didn't have much for Cami or Davina.
I agree, so what they really mean is anyone but Klaus.
I don't mind them killing off characters if t h e y leave them dead and move on to new, exciting, interesting characters with new stories to tell.
I wouldn't mind Cami's death if it was well written, built up, and fulfilled her character. I've had favorite characters die before, and I thought Cami would die before the series ended. But not in such a contrived BSed way. That's what makes me mad.
With new characters, that's TOs problem. They start characters that could be interesting then do nothing with them. So they just take up space. Freya, the cop, Gia. If you get fresh characters with potential they waste them.
But, I'm not sure I'll find much to like with season 4. If they wanted to destroy the Mikaelsons I feel they should have done it in tvd. In their own show, I wanted then to heal and succeed. It seems to me the wsiters couldn't do that so they created a stronger, unkillable monster to be the hero. I feel uberVamp Marcel is the worse story ever.
Good luck with season 4 lol. Marcel is another character with wasted potential.
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