Series 4 Ep !


I have just watched this and the dynamic seems to have changed.
Instead of Thursday, Morse and the Chief Constable being the three leads with the others sort of tailing behind and only speaking occasionally, now the policewoman is a French speaking chess expert and has something to say about EVERYTHING. The other constable is now much more upfront and involved too.
I didn't find this episode very plausible - an American series may have carried it off - but not Oxford Bobbies !
And who are Morse's powerful enemies - surely he could have complained to the Police Commission. I thought it was Thursday wot dun the dirty deed cos he didn't want to lose his star performer - because Morse "Always knows" it seems !!

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It was certainly better than Series 3 (or most of it) so that is encouraging.

Gripes?

a) As with OP, WPC Trewlove. It seems the writers are falling prey to the modern re-writing of history and political statements are being placed front and centre. Do they have to portray Morse as intellectually inferior to the new WPC, just to keep feminists happy? As soon as I saw the lockers and keys I said to Mrs. Lilac "Chess moves" Morse, being a player would have spotted that straight away, particularly as only 10 minutes previous they were talking chess.
Please don't go down the route of everything useful coming from the female bobby. This is Morse / Endeavour not Scott and Bailey. A time and a place for everything, this is neither.

b) Is it me or do I sense that they are trying to portray Strange as a lazy, fat bent, violent copper? He seemed to want the easy way out of everything in this latest Episode (S4E1). Tie that in with what happened in Coda, beating up an informant and I am not sure I like that direction. Would someone who starts off like that be Chief Super material within 18 years (or less)? Every show has a dim / lazy cop who spouts "So it's suicide then" ticks a box and walks away leaving the hero to actually work out that it was murder. I hope that this is not the path they send Strange down. Bad thick male cop vs. Trewlove the enlightened polymath.

Modern series are the place for Coppers like Trewlove. All for Happy Valley heroines. Mid 1960s shows about Morse is just not the place.

'tler

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I too thought that a bit too much effort had gone into portraying WPC Trewlove as having a higher intellect than perhaps might have expected of the average WPC in the 1960s. But I don't see Strange as "a lazy, fat bent, violent copper" - just a not particularly dynamic man, admittedly not one would expect to see as Chief Superintendent within 18 or 20 years.

I didn't find this first episode of the fourth series at all gripping. (But then so far in 2017 I haven't been impressed by the first episodes of the new series of "Sherlock" and "Death in Paradise".) It was interesting to see the early computer spending hours sorting through a database, a task that my basic desktop could now do in a minute or so. Endeavour's reaction when he was told that his exam paper papers had been lost was masterful acting by Shaun Evans. And the 1960s mise-en-scène was commendable; even the students' parked bikes looked to be of that era.

Roger Allam and Anton Lesser continue to do fine portrayals - as indeed does Evans. But the plot lacked sparkle.

At least I shall watch future episodes - unlike with "Sherlock", and I'm not bothered if I miss any more of "Death in Paradise".

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now the policewoman is a French speaking chess expert and has something to say about EVERYTHING


As someone regrettably proficient in moaning about the forced, meticulous insertion of 'modern sensibilities' now sadly rampant in period drama (of which often proves both distracting and detrimental to plot, characterisation et al) blighting such otherwise period-authentic looking programmes with a strangely anachronistic and revisionist tone, I begrudgingly concur.

Indeed, I can't help but lament the, say, forced inclusion of ethnic minority characters in mid-sixties, 99.9999999% white Oxford (foreign students admittedly excepted as they are obviously plausible in context) not to mention the female guest cast typically comprising of uniformly super intelligent, peerlessly resourceful characters of whom are usually the betters of all those nasty, sexist men et al.

However, one has to concede that WPC Trewlove would be a very limited character with an even more limited role if she didn't get something a bit more to do than her diminutive rank and the expectations of the period might otherwise necessitate, nay allow. Her perhaps slightly contrived 'expanded' role therefore is at least understandable in the circumstances.

That said, Endeavour remains an excellent, masterfully made, written and produced series and the above 'niggles' are mercifully light, especially compared to some I could mention.


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The other thing to note is that they are doing it to the character of Morse as well. When we saw Morse in 1987 he wasn't the enlightened feminist, revelling in a female put-down of a sexist male. See Shaun Evan's smirk when this happened as if to say "I'm with you". Morse would more likely have been the offender than the White Knight. As reference just see the way he treated Grayling Russell in the first few of her episodes and the first episode with Laura Hobson.

Morse wasn't above sticking the boot in, in the 1980s and 1990s so it's odd to see that they are playing him as "non-sexist" 20+ years previous. Most people become more of what they already are, so sexist 1980s Morse came from somewhere...

'tler

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The other thing to note is that they are doing it to the character of Morse as well. When we saw Morse in 1987 he wasn't the enlightened feminist, revelling in a female put-down of a sexist male. See Shaun Evan's smirk when this happened as if to say "I'm with you". Morse would more likely have been the offender than the White Knight. As reference just see the way he treated Grayling Russell in the first few of her episodes and the first episode with Laura Hobson.


I have to concede that perhaps one of the (few) tangible weaknesses of Endeavour is the difficulty in believing that Shaun Evans' Morse and John Thaw's iconic impersonation are actually the same character. Certainly a younger Morse would be considerably less cantankerous, cynical et al than his older self but the contemporary revisionism of the character you adroitly allude to makes the connection somewhat difficult to accept at times.

Nevertheless, perhaps Endeavour, despite its lineage, should be afforded some flexibility here in terms of purportedly uneven characterisation as it's ultimately its own show and should be regarded as such.

And as I alluded to earlier, in terms of 'PC pandering' Endeavour is only a minor offender compared to some notorious current/recent examples I could mention and of which comically spend a ton of money depicting an historical period as accurately and authentically as possible....only to have its cast of characters spouting 21st century rhetoric and indulge in laughably anachronistic behaviour!

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Excellent start to series 4, better than any episode in series 3, though I do share some of the minor niggles raised on this forum.

Interesting to note that the first ever episode of Morse was 104 minutes long compared to just 88 minutes for Endeavour. Both filling the same 2 hour slot but 16 minutes more ads and trailers in 2017. Progress!?

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Being a female child of the sixties I must say that I NEVER saw a policewoman who looked like Trewlove. Most pretty girls of that era were more interested in clothes, boys, dancing, boys, make-up, and yeah, more boys!! A girl wanting to be a policewoman would be avoided by her friends because the job would set her apart from them. The only policewomen I ever saw (and there weren't many in those days)were somewhat plain and stern looking creatures. Also as I have mentioned before - a lowly WPC - not even on secondment to CID - would be a shadow in the background - not, as currently portrayed.
Maybe we should call it "The Trewlove Show" !!
Thanks to everyone for responding. I agree with most all the observations.

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I applied for the Met's graduate entry scheme in the late 70's. The only women I saw on the selection day were the support staff! I failed the medical...colour blind :(

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Perhaps it was just as well !! If you are a lady you'd have been Wilhemina no mates !!!

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I'm male so it didn't really bother me. Joining the police wasn't really seen as a graduate level job in those days. They had to entice people with accelerated promotion.

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