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Should have submitted as Drama Series


In 2014, with True Detective electing to be in the Drama Series Category, along with heavy hitters like Breaking Bad and Mad Men, it made sense for the mini-series Fargo to submit as a limited series.

Fast Forward 2 more years, and with those series' no longer competing, and with Fargo becoming a Drama Series with Season 2, it would have cleaned up the acting categories this year. (Downton Abbey did the same thing in Season 2)

Kirsten Dunst, Jesse Plemons, and Jean Smart would have had a good chance of winning their categories outside of the 'timely' People vs OJ. It could also have taken the writing category with episode Loplop.

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In 2014, with True Detective electing to be in the Drama Series Category, along with heavy hitters like Breaking Bad and Mad Men, it made sense for the mini-series Fargo to submit as a limited series.

Fast Forward 2 more years, and with those series' no longer competing, and with Fargo becoming a Drama Series with Season 2, it would have cleaned up the acting categories this year. (Downton Abbey did the same thing in Season 2)

Kirsten Dunst, Jesse Plemons, and Jean Smart would have had a good chance of winning their categories outside of the 'timely' People vs OJ. It could also have taken the writing category with episode Loplop.



Fargo will never be allowed to submit as a Drama Series. There were a lot of complaints about True Detective being submitted that year, because it's unfair for a complete story to go up against long-running drama series, since a single season in only part of a whole story. Anthology series (which Fargo is) have to be submitted into the miniseries category now because each season is a different story with different characters. You can't make the Downton Abbey comparison because Downton Abbey was a continuation of the same story. It was meant to only be a miniseries initially, which is why season 1 was able to compete in that category. But it had unexpected massive success so Julian Fellowes decided to continue it.

Even if it was in the drama series category I don't think it would clean up the categories. It would've lost writing to Game Of Thrones. Kirsten Dunst wouldn't have stood a chance against actresses like Tatiana Maslany or Viola Davis. I do think Jesse Plemons and Jean Smart would've had a chance at winning though.


This game is rigged man. We're like the little b!tches on the chess board-Bodie

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You are pathetic

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^ Such a well-thought-out and concisely worded rebuttal. Good job.

As to kierahillmin's points, here are the Emmys' rules changes from 2015 that speak to what he/she was posting:

CLARIFICATION OF “SERIES” AND “LIMITED SERIES:”

A. All references in the Academy rules to “Mini-Series” will be changed to “Limited Series.”

B. The WGA “created by” credit will no longer be a factor in the determination of “Series” vs. “Limited Series.”

C. “Comedy” and “Drama” series will continue to be defined as programs with multiple episodes (minimum of six [6] episodes) in which the ongoing storyline, theme and main characters are presented under the same title and have continuity of production supervision.

D. “Limited Series” is defined as a program with two (2) or more episodes with a total running time of at least 150 program minutes, that tells a complete, non-recurring story, and does not have an on-going storyline and/or main characters in subsequent seasons. In addition, any narrative series with at least two (2) episodes with a total running time of at least 150 program minutes but no more than five (5) episodes will be considered a “Limited Series.”

E. Upon conclusion of the submission process, the Chair of the Academy or the Chair of the Primetime Emmy Awards Committee can request the Industry Panel (outlined in the “Drama”/”Comedy” rules change outlined above) to review the submitted category for any “Series” or “Limited Series” to determine if the appropriate category was selected. A two-thirds vote of the Industry Panel (i.e. minimum of six [6] votes) is necessary to change the category as submitted. The determination of the Industry Panel will be final in each instance.

Source:http://www.emmys.com/sites/default/files/Downloads/2015-whats-new-v1.pdf


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Drama Series "WILL CONTINUE TO BE DEFINED". I don't know why people thought the submission rules between True Detective Season 1 and 2 changed.

DRAMA SERIES SUBMISSION RULES NEVER CHANGED. Historically, it's the limited/mini-series categories that have found Drama Series trying to gain an advantage because, historically, the Drama Series Category has been the more competitive category among the two. This year alone, I felt was the best year for Fargo to make the change, and cement itself as a Drama Series contender for the foreseeable future.

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Better Call Saul is in the drama category and like Fargo, has 10 episodes per season. So Fargo should be in the drama category as well.

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Except Better Call Saul is a series with a continuing storyline, while Fargo is an anthology series with new storylines, characters and actors each season, much like True Detective or American Horror Story. See my post above with the Emmys' rules regarding "Series" vs. "Limited Series."

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Fargo is an anthology series so yes it technically belongs in Limited Series, but actually I agree that it would have done very well in Drama categories. Probably wouldn't have won against GOT, but given how split the acting categories were, what critics called the "best performances of the year" before OJ came out by Kirsten Dunst and Jean Smart would definitely have won.

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I think it's more important that viewers find the show and love it. The actors deserved every award there was, but the Emmys are bullshît just like the Oscars.

As long as the show is supported by critics and more importantly viewers, and recognized as one of the very finest shows ever, it's all good.

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