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Last season is turning out to be a disappointment.


I'm almost finished marathoning the show and it's a real shame too. Season 1 and 2 were stellar and S3 - 5 were some of the best television ever committed to celluloid. I have no idea what show I'm even watching anymore with S6. Everything feels bland, uninspired and messy. Nacho's storyline is convoluted and rushed. Gus is just excised from the plot. Mike isn't doing anything but looking at monitors and going yup.

Saul and Kim's storyline is way too reliant on convoluted cartoonish schemes. I don't mind Kim's hatred for Howard. It all makes sense and is completely consistent with how their characters have been developing over the course of the show but it's so plot devicy and cheap the way it's executed. Cliff gets so easily convinced by the most circumstantial evidence, like when did this guy's I.Q. plummet? I feel like focusing on a strong aftermath with Jimmy coercing the Kettleman's to spread the rumor would have made more sense, but everything he does to manipulate Cliff requires so much idiot writing.

The biggest offense was Lalo. God they introduced such a badass character and completely wasted him. He doesn't even show up until like five episodes, and when he does he isn't doing anything interesting other than fuck around in Germany all so he can get killed in a dumb way tracking down Gus's lab. Fuck off.

This show had so much promise.

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Season 6 is definitely the worst in a lot of ways, and the finale is particularly bad with its illogical character actions and forced ending. So bad that it essentially killed my desire to rewatch the show.

Seasons 1-3 with Chuck and Jimmy's interactions are when it shined the most imo, and was its own thing. They were always going to have to go more toward the Breaking Bad route, and in Season 5 they pulled it off decently well, but the follow-through with 6 was mediocre.

We never got to see the full journey from Jimmy to the guy who would casually and repeatedly suggest murder as a solution. The Kim breakup/time skip wasn't remotely sufficient - there should have been a key moment where Jimmy is a direct accomplice to a murder that suits his needs. Instead it's just "oh he's Saul now". Same thing with Nacho and Lalo's endings, both were rushed and lame.

I won't even get into all my issues with the finale but for me it was the most disappointing thing since GoT's final season.

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I agree about the cartoonish schemes. I was disappointed as soon as I realized that setting Howard up was going to be such a big focus, and I don't really agree that Kim's hatred of him makes that much sense. My general issue is that they went too far with the characters. With Jimmy and Kim it was the over-the-top cons. Mike started out as a retired cop who was crafty, meticulous and good at weighing up situations. By the end he was an expert on literally everything. He always knew exactly what to do and what the other person would do no matter the situation. Between this and Jimmy predicting such specific reactions in cons it just became too much of the same. I can't think of a single time where Mike wasn't right other than maybe when he fell for Lalo's ploy to leave Gus unattended, but even then he was the one that said they should keep eyes on Jimmy's apartment and told Gus to stay at his house.

Speaking of Lalo, you saw a badass character but to me he was the real cartoon. Or I guess maybe more like a cartel version of Jason Bourne with how they used him. He somehow tricked the court system into believing he was someone else, escaped an ambush by trained killers and killed all of them, ended up tracking down specific people in Germany to get secret information, then managed to trick and kill his way through elaborate protection into being one on one with Gus. They even had to include the touch that Gus was shot in his body armor to show that Lalo was such a badass that he would have killed him otherwise. It just felt like a different show with his character. I had the same problem when the Salamanca brothers just walked into a warehouse and killed everyone with zero preparation. It seemed like lazy ways to create "cool villains."

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Lalo did kill Howard, so there's that.. The show's Finale really is a downer for certain

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