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How can they get it this wrong?


First, I know a significant amount of this history. I have ready many many books on the Space Program, have devoured dozens of documentaries and love movies and shows like "The Right Stuff" and "From Earth to the Moon." I am also a big Mad Men fan and a fan of this era in general. It's not possible to make a perfect period piece and even Mad Men had its revisionist moments. But what Mad Men got right was excellent writing. It's also did a fairly good job of evoking the era in terms of how people spoke and behaved and an excellent job with the styles and set design. More than all of that, it was outstanding at using music to set the mood. The Right Stuff and From Earth to the Moon, also did good jobs of evoking the era and were fairly accurate in their portrayals of the history. All of that said: WHAT was this? What I don't get is - the people who made this show (and show like Pan Am and the Playboy Club) have SO much source material to draw from.Did the people who made this even watch any of the shows/films I already mentioned? In this case, I know it's not a documentary, but at least attempt to mirror the actual history somewhat realistically. Also, keep the revisionist cliches to a minimum. Yes, we know: they lived in the "repressive" 1960s and stayed home while their husbands worked. There is absolutely no need to remind us of that fact in every other scene. Plus, they speak, all of them, like modern Americans and not like the way that people spoke during that era. Some of the actresses were barely containing the Valley Girl upspeak. Take a look at the photos of the real wives of the Mercury astronauts...they look like they belong in their era (obviously). This was like a bad, low budget, poorly researched tv movie. And you can never, ever, not ever hope to realistically evoke an era, especially this era, without contemporaneous music. But ABC apparently decided to go cheap and use new music. If you are going to do that, at least attempt to make it sound right for the era. It can be recreated easily, probably more easily today than a decade or two ago because there are so many modern artists that record in that style. If you aren't going to do that, at least use good music. The music in this was amazingly awful. This was a complete farce. Unfortunately, a few more failed attempts and the door will be shut (for now) on period dramas.

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So, other than the music, what do you think of it?

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Yeah. That's funny. I also thought that the guy playing Alan Shepard did a great job of channeling Scott Glenn.

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I think ABC wanted a show similar to Masters of Sex which fictionalized the lives of Dr Masters and his team but set in a time period in the same manner as Mad Men. Except this show is boring.

Nothing was interesting about the wives or their lives despite the book it's based on. No wonder it's a 10 episode "show". Just read the show was held back for a year to improve it. Talk about missing the mark.

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 I hate it when know-it-alls visit a forum to trash a show or film because of their nit-picks on historical accuracy!

You would think they'd expect embellishment in all narratives by now!

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-Benjamin Francis Leftwich

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Learn to use paragraphs.



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I was going to say just that. Sorry, the OP's point is lost in that wall of text. TL/DR.

It ain't the Ganges, but you go with what you got." ~ Ken Talley, "The Fifth of July"

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I thought it was largely accurate. I'm not sure where you're coming from on the "manner of speaking." People didn't speak much differently then, except for some obvious matters of vocabulary, which they generally seemed to get about right (though I'm sure a niggler can probably come up with one or two slang terms that weren't in period). I'm pretty sure most people who were around their early to mid 30s in 1961 thought they were "modern Americans," and still do (though their numbers are gradually diminishing).

On the music: period popular music would likely have been cheaper to license, if anything. Scores of period pieces are generally not done in period musical style.

"From the Earth to the Moon" was quite accurate and careful, across the board. More so, probably, than this will be, but that's not the be-all and end-all of a series. "The Right Stuff" took a fair number of liberties with details in favor of a creating a stylized version of reality.

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On what do you base your assessment of the speech/grammar/vocabulary. Granted, I wasn't born until '62, but did not find this so alien - my Mom would have taught me to speak using the same patterns. Keep in mind regional differences also.

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I was born in (gulp!) '51 and I didn't notice anachronistic language leaping out at me. Once or twice I wondered about a phrase, but it isn't as if people in the 60s sounded like they were from the 16th century.

It ain't the Ganges, but you go with what you got." ~ Ken Talley, "The Fifth of July"

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I love how it promotes this Marxist-Feminist propaganda that oh no....women are repressed and stuck in the home and can't have careers...it's like every female in this is a step away from her personal burka. It's like no sane woman would want to cook and raise children, and yet civilization got along fine for thousands of years with these women 'trapped' at home. Even Mad Men went there, portraying Peggy as the 'right' kind of woman in the workplace and Joan as the 'wrong' kind -- I would think real 'feminism' would be about respect ANY choice a woman makes for herself...even if its to be a housewife or a secretary.

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Only one woman out of seven in the series seems openly resentful of her limitations in society due to being a married female, so I don't know why you're complaining.

As for Mad Men, Peggy, Joan AND Betty were 3 dimensional characters, who were neither perfect nor completely flawed. Any rightness or wrongness of those characters is in the eye of the beholder.

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How does it promote this? I would think most viewers are capable of grasping that it shows a small sample of women ofthat time period, military wives who didn't work outside the home.

It ain't the Ganges, but you go with what you got." ~ Ken Talley, "The Fifth of July"

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I actually love the look of the show. It's a television show, in modern times about the 1960's. It isn't a documentary, it's meant for entertainment. They're not going to get everything exactly right and it needs to appeal to modern viewers. To be honest I haven't even noticed the modern music in the show so I guess it doesn't bother me. It's only entertainment.

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