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Why are criminals afraid of Batman?


I've asked this question before on other boards but I never really got a straight answer or one I could believe.

I get that they'd be afraid of Batman in a "I don't want to get my ass kicked" way, but they always show criminals being terrified of "The Bat". Like he's some urban legend or something.

Yet in the comics and games and cartoons Batman is constantly fighting with criminals. He never kills them, the worst he does is beat them up and take them to jail. I'm sure criminals would talk and they'd put together the fact that Batman doesn't kill.

So....why are they all so terrified of him? I get being afraid of the Punisher. I get being afraid of Wolverine. I get that they would want to avoid Batman, but like in the games when you do the stealth sections the criminals all act like they're going to crap their pants with terror.

I've just never bought that aspect of Batman. Also he dresses up like a bat to terrify criminals....but his sidekick is a little boy who might as well be wearing a gay pride flag for a costume. I mean..how does Robin fit into his "terrifying" image?

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There was an episode of Batman the animated series, I think it was called legends of the dark night. I thought it did a nice job of establishing how legend or myth can take on greater proportions and grow. There was one scene at night from the perspective of one of the bad guys, and he sees Batman raise his arm towards another guy who's running away, and sees that guy fall. Later the students telling others about it, and he says "batman just pointed him, and he fell!" In reality, Batman had thrown his grapple thing to wrap up the guys legs, but under the cover of darkness, this guy misinterpreted what he saw. I think the same episode had a scene in which Batman was crouched on top of some boxes with his cape hanging down, draped over the boxes, and a bad guy shoots right into the cape thinking he's shooting Batman in the body, when reality he's getting the boxes. He runs thinking Batman's impervious to bullets. Things like this can have people thinking he's more than just a man.

As far as the killing thing, I heard a thug in Arkham Knight saying he knows about the supposed no kill rule, but was still doubting it or having some certainty, having heard the Batman was stepping up his game and after the rumors about jokers death. hearing that he has this rule is one thing, hanging over the edge of the building with him threatening to drop you is another. If I was the guy lying on the ground with the Batmobile tire right on my head, I don't think knowing about a no kill rule would've given me any comfort.

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I often wondered that myself, but you have to remember that, while Batman may not kill, he is willing to hurt you really, really bad. Plus, some criminals have their doubts about his "no killing" rule.

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I read this somewhere that in the comics, one henchman mocks Batman that he never kills. Batman scares him by saying "What makes you think I would leave behind any evidence ?"

Between what is said and not meant, and what is meant, and not said, most of love is lost - K.Gibran

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He may have his no kill rule but he does give his enemies a good beating: broken bones, missing teeth, broken noses, or concussions/traumatic brain injuries...

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Batman's attacks in Arkham Knight are definitely more brutal than in the previous games. Besides slamming enemies to the pavement head-first, he also shoves them head-first into lamps, electrical boxes, drops lights on their heads, detatches air conditioners and throws them, and I'm pretty sure being shocked by a vehicle driving by at 200mph can be fatal or leave long-lasting damage. Not to mention, I think Bats may have committed numerous acts of vehicular manslaughter. Think about it, if a regular car gets into a head-on collision with the Batmobile, I don't see the other car staying in one piece. Not to mention, the Batmobile can drive over unconscious thugs in the street.

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Why are criminals afraid of Batman? Because having your head slammed onto a concrete sidewalk hurts.

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They know Batman won't kill them, but he'll straight up break their bones if it gets him what he needs. Would you be calm about the possibility of a man in an armoured Bat suit dropping out of the sky and snapping your limbs? I know I'd be terrified.

Kiss my face

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But these are all things that the criminals will heal from.

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But these are all things that the criminals will heal from.

Slowly. If a guy gets his arm or leg broken and left out in the cold for a long period of time, it can weaken the joint and take even LONGER to heal. Plus, some guys whose heads Batman slams against a wall or the concrete could develop serious concussions and head trauma. Despite the fact they constantly hammer in how Batman never kills, I will say that he was committed many acts of involuntary manslaughter, and in Arkham Knight's case, VEHICULAR manslaughter. If a 50-ton Batmobile sails a great distance through the air and lands on you, you're dead. End of story.

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Remember, the criminals of Gotham City do not know Batman is actually the good-at-heart Bruce Wayne.
They don't know anything about his mission, or his morality on life and death.

most criminals probably don't ever get a good look at him, mostly a shadow lurking in the dark or flash that goes by and kicks the living crap out of you.


To most, Batman is something incomprehensible. They can't know for sure he's just a man. Or even alive.

they know he's incorruptible and untouchable, he might not kill you, but he'd beat and break all of your limbs that the point where you might never walk again.

now combined with the fact that you're working for a homicidal and sadistic crime boss that doesn't tolerate failures, I can understand why most criminals identify as "nervous" or "terrified" on my detective mode.

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Because they are a superstitious cowardly lot

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I guess the criminals are afraid of him because they don't understand him and, to take a line out of the films, they fear what they don't understand. I actually with AK does a good job of exploring this. Spoilers.

For the beginning of his career (Origins) he operated for a time without being confirmed as even existing.

Then as the truth gets out, even if the criminals know what happened (everything about his fighting style is to strike hard from the shadows and disappear) what are they going to say? I got beat up by a guy in a costume, or tell some fantastic tale, thereby building his legend.

The supercriminals who get more facetime with him might be braver, but we see in the games even they are scared. Even if they tell themselves he's just a man, and berate their men, telling them the same, suddenly he appears and takes them down. Perhaps he's not just a man, after all Superman and presumably other metahumans exist in this universe.

Yet in AK Jason comes along, knowing the truth and training his men to take him down. Even so you hear them talking, commenting that the Knight was right...but, every now and again their worries and doubts creep in. He doesn't kill, right?

Then Batman is revealed to be Bruce Wayne, and as you can hear one of the thugs say his mystique is gone. He's a man after all, and a very flawed, human one at that. He couldn't be a symbol now, so he had to die and let something worse rise from the ashes.

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Because they are a superstitious cowardly lot


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