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Why is the media pretending like everyone LOVES this movie?


Vastly inferior remake of an iconic 1961 classic, completely failed to get an audience, one of the worst performing films of Steven Speilberg's entire career, Rita Moreno embarrassed herself playing the "Doc" role in a desperate attempt to get a "star" from the REAL West Side Story, sucked so bad that Spielberg already announced he'd never do another musical ever...

...and yet the media is acting like people are thrilled by this turdfest and asking idiotic questions like "Why was Rachel Zegler initially SNUBBED from an invite to the Oscars? GASP!"

I haven't seen THIS level of delusion since Suicide Squad became the THIRD Snyderverse film in a row to open with a "divisive" response, Jared Leto's Joker was ridiculed and never seen again, and the film itself got near universal scathing reviews...but everyone acted like the Snyderverse was kickin' butt and skank crack-whore looking Harley Quinn was the definitive IT gal of the year.

What's next, the media pretends like Jar Jar Binks is everyone's FAVORITE Star Wars character?

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Your guess is as good as mine, especially when it comes to the fact that the media is acting as if people are thrilled by Spielberg's reboot/remake of the 1961 film version of West Side Story, and are insisting that "it's an adaptation of the 1957 Broadway show of West Side Story, and not a reboot/remake of it. Nothing, imho, could be farther from the truth.

Not all of the media is in love with Spielberg's remake/reboot of the film version of West Side Story, but I think that the part of the media that is in love with the 2021 film version of West Side Story is due to the fact that the media people who are in love with the reboot/remake of the film version of West Side Story are either part of the "woke" group, or they've been bought and paid for by the overall medial

The fact that Steven Spielberg didn't make even half of what it cost him to make his film version of West Side Story (i. e. $100, 000, 000 dollars) indicates a very poor showing int the box office.

I'm admittedly a devout fan of the old, original 1961 film version of West Side Story, which, imho is the real deal, if one gets the drift.

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Oh mplo. Not you again. I don't have to read your long posts. I know by heart what will be your arguments about West Side Story 2021.

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Yes---it's me again! Ha ha ha! So---- Don't read my posts---see if I care! If you're hoping I'll change my mind, and my position, and how I feel about Spielberg's film version of West Side Story, well...forget it, because that's not going to happen. :0

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What the HELL did he spend $100,000,000 on!? Dude got ripped off!

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That's a good question, pepetoony! It beats me!

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Spielberg. Woke media.

Stop trying to make Woke Side Story happen. It’s not going to happen.

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It goes to show that the 2021 film version of West Side Story isn't the hit that lots of people thought it would be. Moreover, that cannot be blamed on the pandemic, either.

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“Media” is the plural of “medium.” It is not a standalone entity. Your headline should be “Why ARE the media, etc.,” but your education has failed you.

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Wow. Anything you want to say about his/her point, or are you just here to demean?

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It's June, 2022 and there's still somebody who hasn't forgotten this monumental turd yet?

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I’ve already lost all respect for Disney (who shouldn’t have even taken on a movie like this because West Side Story is not up their alley), and I’m also losing it big time for Steven Spielberg. After I thought I couldn’t lose more of it when it was announced that he was going to be remaking it.

The movie bombed, everybody knows it sucked, why can’t we just move on?

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The fact that Disney got involved in the making of the 2021 film version of West Side Story practically defies belief. While Spielberg has done some really good movies that are based on true historical events, doing a reboot/remake of the 1961 film version of West Side Story is something that neither Spielberg OR anybody, for that matter, should've touched. I saw part of Spielberg's West Side Story film version on my computer, but that's as far as I've decided I'm going to go. The original 1961 film version of West Side Story, as I've pointed out, is the real deal, and I'm sticking with it.

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Jaws will always be my favorite Steven Spielberg movie. But even over the past few decades, starting at least around the early 2000s, his movies were taking a nose dive in quality.

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Hi, StrongRex. Thank you so much for your candid response to my comment. "Jaws", to me, is a fun movie, but it admittedly doesn't hold the same special place in my heart regarding movies as the original 1961 film version of West Side Story. "Jaws", however does play at the Coolidge Corner theatre here in Brookline, MA, every year, at around Labor Day, as part of that movie theatre's annual Big Screen Classic film series. It never fails to sell out every year. I don't go every year to see "Jaws", but I go every now and then, if one gets the drift.

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Have you seen Minority Report? That was a disaster of a movie. Spielberg directed it.

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I did see "Minority Report". It was a boring disaster. I know that Spielberg directed it. Not all of Spielberg's movies are good, that's for sure.

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It was boring, but even worse the premise was so asinine.

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You're right, StrongRex. "Minority Report" was not only boring, but it really didn't have much of a story much less a plot to it. That's why it was so boring

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It has a plot, but it’s a plot with a premise that defies common sense and due process of law.

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That's very true, StrongRex. It was not that interesting a movie, either, for that matter.

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Minority Report is one of Spielberg’s best films, what are you talking about?

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A movie that has an infuriating premise, three stupid chase scenes in a row, a protagonist who just gets himself into one needlessly risky situation after another for the sake of the plot? Far from it.

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Minority Report has a genius premise from sci-fi legend Philip K Dick, the chase scenes are fantastic featuring Spielberg’s superior choreography and inventiveness (amongst multiple amazing and memorable scenes in the film - spiders, eye transplant, pre-cog chase) and the protagonist does exactly what he needs to given his objective.

Sounds like you need to watch it again.

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Sounds like you’re a Steven Spielberg fanboy who will just worship anything he dishes out. I don’t need to watch it again. I know it’s in it.

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Sounds like you’re a Steven Spielberg fanboy who will just worship anything he dishes out.

Sounds like you haven’t read my latest thread:
https://moviechat.org/tt3581652/West-Side-Story/6473e3000a6e7434ee6739fb/Woke-Spielberg-Bad-Spielberg


I know it’s in it.

What? You know what’s ‘in it’?

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I’m not sure why you’re so intent on having this debate. You’re not going to change my mind about the movie, and you’re pushing the issue in the wrong movie discussion board.

And yes, genius, I KNOW what’s in it. I’ve seen the crappy movie.

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You’re not going to change my mind about the movie

Of course not, people who are wrong become even more entrenched in their delusions when proven to be so. The purpose of my intervention is to publicly correct you so that others aren’t misled, and so that they can watch your reaction.


And yes, genius, I KNOW what’s in it.

You haven’t understood the question. What did you mean by ‘I know it’s in it’? What does your first ‘it’ refer to?

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Nope. I’m done engaging with you, fuck off.

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I’d rage-quit too after a fail that embarrassing 🤣

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This massive turd has just about been forgotten already, while the 1961 original continues to be a classic.

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Yup! You're sure right, liscarkat!

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You realize that “media” is a plural word, right? Hence, “the media PRETEND” and so on. Please easchew illiteracy.

Demeaning of trivialities is fun. Y’know, fish in a barrel, and all that.

And what alleged point?

Rich, toy man recall that Marshall McLuhan‘s tattered. tome was titled “The Medium Is The Message,” and it’s as relevant today as Flat Earth or any CW revival.

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It's "eschew". Idiot.

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It's because the film wasn't made for regular Americans (or regular people in general) to watch. It was made for the idiots in Hollyweird, news stations, magazines, and newspapers to enjoy. Nobody else really matters to them beyond getting eyeballs on the screen and money in their wallets. So when they say "everyone," they don't mean "everyone in the US," or "everyone who watched it." They mean "everyone" in their little cultural spheres.

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The 2021 film version was also meant for these little goody-two-shoes types who see racism, bigotry and other forms of malignancy in everything, if one gets the drift.

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And that's the biggest problem with show biz these days: they've given up on catering to the majority of Americans, who are traditional, care about family, are straight, follow a religion, work honest jobs, and like to see the hero win. Hollyweird now treats everyday Americans like we're the enemy, like we don't deserve good story-telling, and that we have to be "educated" on how to be like the idiots in show biz. So now they're making the stories they want to tell each other, and screw the American public if we don't like it. A pity they don't seem to understand that if any other business besides Hollyweird tried that shit, they would be filing Chapter 11 in less than a year.

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Show biz these days has changed, and not always for the good, either. I may not be one of those "regular" Americans who are religious, have a family of my own, but I don't like to treat other Americans, whoever they may be, like the enemy. I, too, like to see the hero win, and, although I'm liberal in many ways, I'm an ultra-conservative when it comes to the re-making/rebooting of good, older classic films, especially something such as the original 1961 film version of West Side Story, which is my all time favorite movie, hands down..

I saw part of Spielberg's reboot/remake of the film version of West Side Story, after having rented it to view on my computer (There's no way I would've paid to go and see it in a movie theatre!), and could not bring myself to see the whole thing. It felt all wrong, forced, unnatural, too dark, too heavy, and totally unlike West Side Story. The dancing was way too hyped up, the colors of the film often went from way too dark to being way too bright. The backdrop scenes looked far too overwhelming and way more like the tonier, wealthier parts of the city than the impoverished, rough and rundown parts of the city.

Rachel Zegler's Maria was way too churchy-looking, and Ansel Elgort's Tony did not look or even act like a tough-but-tender ex-gang member. Rachel Zegler's singing voice was too far back, not projected forward enough, and too nasal, and she went flat in a lot of places. Ansel Elgort's singing voice was nothing to write home about, either. The Valentina role that Rita Moreno played seemed totally all wrong for her, given her looks and her personality. I liked her better as Anita. Her singing "Somewhere" in Spielberg's West Side Story was totally out of place, as well.



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And that's the worst part. Two of the biggest problems show biz has today consist of these things:

- The people in Hollyweird who are in charge of making films/tv shows are living in a bubble of extreme left-wing values, and they really don't understand their audience anymore, and don't want to. They remind me eerily of the Court of Versailles in 18th century France, because that's how far the gulf between Hollyweird is and regular viewers.

- These same childish nutjobs have sacrificed good story-telling in favor of turning every one of their productions into a hard-left political platform, and get angry when nobody outside their bubble likes it. They blame everyone else for their shortcomings, rather than trying to understand what their customers like and don't like.

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What's also unfortunate is that many, if not most movies that are coming out nowadays are very long on style (if one can call it that with a straight face!), and woefully short on substance. Movies used to tell a story but an awful lot of them don't these days. Unfortunately, that's what sells, because that's what a lot of today's younger generation wants. It's sad but true.

That's why, when I go to movies, I make it a point to see mostly the older movies, when they play in movie theatres, courtesy of fathom events.com and Turner Classic movies. The 60th Anniversary screening of the old, original 1961 version of West Side Story was no exception, especially since that one's my all-time favorite movie, hands down.

Yet, if there's an occasional newer film that revolves around a subject that peaks my interest, I'll go to see that, too, although not as many times as I've seen the old, original 1961 film version of West Side Story, which I never get tired of watching, either on TV, or in a movie theatre, when it comes around..

I'll also add that a lot of the newer movies are too graphic, and too explicitly sexual, which can be bothersome, also. I don't mind seeing a certain amount of blood, gore, violence, or even sex, when there's a point or points to be made, but most of today's stuff really does exceed what's necessary, in those respects.

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I don't know, I've heard people say that even their kids can tell that much of what's on tv or in theaters is dog shit these days. There are parents who have shown older stuff to their kids, and they like that better than current stuff. The only people who watch the newer garbage [and sometimes even like it] are either stupid, or live in a blue city somewhere in the US. Either that, or they're foreigners that don't get the political messaging, or are desperate for entertainment that's "better" than what their own country has.

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Actually, while some of the things you're saying about people who watch all the newer stuff and/or like it, or who live in "blue" cities are true, that's not always the case. I live in a blue state (i e. the Bay State), and in a blue city just outside Boston, and I happen to like many, if not most of the older films that I've seen far better than I like much, if not most of the new stuff in the way of movies that are coming out nowadays.

I was talking with a friend of mine yesterday afternoon, who I had come with me and several other people to see the 60th Anniversary screening of the 1961 film version of West Side Story for the first time. She and everybody else who came with me to see the 60th Anniversary screening of the original 1961 film version of West Side Story liked it very, very much. ( I never get tired of the old film version of West Side Story, either. It's my all-time favorite movie hands down.)

When I told my friend yesterday about Spielberg's reboot/remake of the film version of West Side Story, she immediately responded with a "thumbs down" gesture. My mother had also seen Spielberg's reboot/remake of the film version of West Side Story on television, and she did not care for it.

It's an agreement between you, me, and tons of other people: Many, if not most of the older films are better, and the old, original 1961 film version of West Side Story is no exception.

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