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"You're still with me. That's good."

posted 7 years ago by keybored (2657)
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Is there someone else other than Bob in Cooper's body (apart from any residual good Cooper)?

When Bob was in Leland, you never saw the two together other than in a mirror, until they separated at the end when Bob left him.

However, we then see an Evil Cooper and Bob laughing together and next to each other.

Outside the lodge we first see Bob in the mirror with Cooper's body but Bob was no longer visible in the mirror in the last episode, and if Bob was referring to Cooper still being with him then that wouldn't be good (for Bob), but what if it is something else inside the body that was referring to Bob still being with him?

[–] Mister Babadook (2630) 7 years ago

Think he was just talking about Bob, the actor who played Bob died back in the 90's so they couldn't have him in the mirror unless they edited some old footage of him into it which would have looked bad. So they just had to have Evil Cooper sort of see his face slightly change a bit resembling Bob somewhat to tell him he's still there.

[–] keybored (2657) 7 years ago

Yes I know the actor died (Bob did not die as he is a character) and if they wanted they could have added Bob in the mirror using cgi but they didn't and that is my point. Cooper's new mirror image looked like Cooper, not Bob. Also my post was about what was said, which implies another person/entity.

[–] SySnootles (100) 7 years ago

I have a number of questions about this too:

- Evil Cooper is the doppelganger, which contains the spirit of Bob
- What was Dougie? Was he some sort of construct created by Evil Cooper/Bob, to be pulled back into the Black Lodge when Cooper left, so EC/Bob could stay in the real world?
- Why does Evil Cooper seem calm? When Leland was possessed by Bob he acted completely irrationally, but Evil Cooper, whilst a sociopath, doesn't have the same maniacal quality we've seen Bob to display consistently. Evil Cooper is calculating and clearly there is something he wants to achieve, something he is involved in. Bob, to date, has only wanted to cause pain and murder, he is a creature of blood-lust and doesn't come across as being particularly bright or capable of repressing his instincts. This leads me to think that maybe you are right - something else is also inhabiting the doppelganger, something more dangerous than Bob.

I know it's Lynch though and nothing has to make sense! I wish we were seeing more of the Twin Peaks crowd.

[–] keybored (2657) 7 years ago

'Bob Cooper' created Dougie and gave him the ring to wear so he would be the one going back to the lodge instead. Don't know how he was created yet but that is how it has been explained so far.

I'm sure Lynch has some story to explain the lack of original Bob actor, but cool, calm and collected isn't original Bob, and doesn't how explain the evil Cooper was laughing with Bob also as separate entities, so I think we are seeing some other entity there. The thing that escaped the box shows that there are other entities capable of entering the world so I think Bob is working with and sharing Cooper's body with something else.

[–] SySnootles (100) 7 years ago

He's also wearing brown lenses isn't he... his eyes seem much darker than KM's do normally. They've managed to make him look almost Latino.

[–] keybored (2657) 7 years ago

They just look like black circles to me.

[–] krl97a (5619) 7 years ago

That's not Cooper's body. It's a copy. The real Cooper just got out of the Black Lodge. I'm not sure, but I get the impression that's not the same type of dynamic Bob had with Leland. Leland was apparently just possessed by Bob, but the real Leland was still there and we saw him in control from time to time (maybe most of the time). He didn't go into the Black Lodge and get stuck there while a doppleganger replaced him.

The evil doppleganger seems to have some measure of independent identity, but Bob is very much with him, and that's whom he was talking about to the mirror.

[–] krl97a (5619) 7 years ago

Also...

but Bob was no longer visible in the mirror in the last episode

If you pay close attention in that "you're still with me" scene you do see Bob's face subtly appear and blend with Evil Cooper's in the mirror for a few seconds.

[–] keybored (2657) 7 years ago

Surely Bob would already know if he was still there or not, so there would be no need to say that to himself.

[–] krl97a (5619) 7 years ago

As I said above, the evil doppelganger appears to have some sort of independent existence and isn't just Bob per se, though Bob is with him.