Bram wtf?


I didnt think he would be that stupid to sabotage his chance of getting out of there, I thought he is just playing both sides but will betray the Resistance in the end. It also didnt feel like he was deeply in love with the girl to risk his life in helping the Resistance.

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He seems to know how to gain people's trust but IMO taking the card was just suicide. Off to the factory for sure, after being tortured.

I doubt he'd have it in him to detonate the bomb. I don't think he wouldn't give up the cell either. The raps could easily use his younger sister as leverage.

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In the previews for next week it looks like Snyder knows he was involved, but he's facing a situation where unless he pulls something useful out of this disaster his whole workforce will be exterminated and him along with it. I think that's why he's talking to Bram. If either one of them is going to get out of the situation alive they need to come up with a way of pointing the finger elsewhere. Personally, I think Snyder's little phone call about Nolan is going to figure into it. He unknowingly planted the seed for Nolan to take the fall by letting his superiors know about the unauthorized and improper little visit he paid. And while he was there, it must've been HIM who snatched the key card that allowed the terrorist to gain access. I think Snyder and Bram are going to end up working together to sell that story to the Authority.

Bram might surprise you though. I think if he truly believed the Raps could be beaten, he might sacrifice himself. And he couldn't give up anyone but the cell members at the camp. It seems like orders are passed down in typical blind cell fashion, by voices on the phone or physical dead drops so no one knows the true identities (or could give physical descriptions of) the people above them in the organization. I'm guessing the group at the labor camp probably got themselves arrested for the sole purpose of intercepting that shipment.

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That makes complete sense. I think I just want Snyder to get his comeuppance somehow, especially for the tip off. Though to have him exterminated along with Bram wouldn't be as fun as seeing how this plays out with Nolan, given his esteemed position in the religion.

Now I'm wondering who else could pull off a heroic win for the resistance without it feeling cheesy...

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Well Snyder didn't do what I expected after all. He just tried covering up evidence that the plot originated inside the camp, and (no big shock) the Raps didn't care to hear any excuses. Maybe if they'd come up with an HQ for the Red Hand they would have vented their rage on that instead. But without another target the camp was toast. Snyder didn't go down with the ship though. No big surprise. And thanks to him Bram lucked out of being blasted by ... whatever that weapon is, that pulverizes things like an invisible fist. From what we're shown of next week's episode though, Bram's getting home is just out of the frying pan and into a different frying pan. Unless he can discredit the captured kid's testimony it looks like Will's time at Homeland is finally up.

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Outstanding episode. Yes, nothing to do with Nolan, this part you didn't get right, but you did predict accurately that the blown ship was just a mega drone with no Raps inside.

This episode was dark, dense, suspenseful...

This show is turning into a masterpiece. No fillers in this episode; pretty intense. No longer too slow.

Wow!

And the babysitter finally gets killed. Poor girl, but she was so annoying that I couldn't help but feel glad that she got eliminated.

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Creepy cult weirdo Lindsey? Yeah, she was one of those true believer types who's all smiles and love on the outside but full of intolerance and hate on the inside. Charlie saw her for who she really was the first time they met. I actually thought he'd be the one to kill her after seeing the previews for this week. I was sorta hoping Gracie would reject her first, tell her she pretends to be a nice person but she isn't, and neither are the Raps. Oh well. At least this way Homeland doesn't have surveillance video of Charlie doing it.

What I want to know is, why did the Red Hand hit the Bowmans' house? Will lets Karen the cell leader go, and THIS is the thanks he gets? She knows he isn't the one who killed her daughter. You'd think maybe they would want to make contact and see if he could be recruited instead of having him whacked - and his family too. WTF?

Another interesting question: why did the Governor General rush to Snyder's rescue like that? She put herself in danger by skating in there right before the place was demolished. Could it be that Snyder is aligned with the high level insurgency she's almost certainly part of?

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I think the Governor General sees value in Snyder who is clearly smart and a survivor. When it comes to finally fight the Raps he will come in handy. He is worth saving. There aren't many strong humans left and he is one. In her place I'd have rescued him too.

About Karen, you know, people usually displace anger. Even though he said to her that he didn't kill her daughter and tried to save her, she still said he was guilty like all collaborators. *He* said "not all of us" but it doesn't mean she believed him. He lent her a face to place on the people who killed her daughter and it was the only one she had a face for, so she took revenge. I don't see it as an error in writing. She tried to kill the one she knew was part of the operation that killed her daughter, even if he was a softer one. When it comes to a parent's loss, other considerations such as the overall goal of the Red Hand take second fiddle.

Charlie is a tough kid. I think he will be important in the subsequent fight. I respect him more than Bram.

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Karen knows Will isn't the one who killed her daughter, after what happened at the safe house. He was there and didn't stop it from happening but what was he supposed to do? Throw her over his shoulder, then shoot his way out of Homeland HQ with the girl on his back? He has a family of his own to think about. She knows that too. She's not being rational about all this. Karen has decided that anyone who played the slightest part in her daughter's death, no matter how indirect or passive, deserves to die. And like you said Will Bowman is the only name she knows for sure right now.

The fact that the Governor General called up Snyder at the end of the most recent episode, when the new proxy refused to do what he was told, is just further evidence that she respects and trusts him. I'm sure we'll find out more details of their relationship in the weeks to come.

Charlie is a tough kid. No doubt about that, his experience in Santa Monica exemplifies the saying that whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I think the way he looks after his younger sister is very sweet. It shows he's still a good kid underneath the tough exterior he had to develop in order to stay alive on the other side of the wall. But he IS only 13, still at the age when everything seems so simple. Don't think Bram isn't a strong person too. He's just a little more aware than Charlie of the larger consequences of things and feels horribly guilty about all the people who paid for what he and his friends did at the camp. That's why he hasn't told anyone about it. Hey, did you guys see that ship blow up - that was us! He lived while almost everyone else died and he's ashamed of that. Ashamed especially, I would think, of the fact that deep down he's glad it was them and not him. Good old fashioned survivor's guilt.

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I really enjoyed this episode too. It's totally changed my feeling about Snyder - I don't dislike him anymore. His character feels more rounded now.

The Red Hand going for Will's family was a cool development. Can't wait for the next episode.



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