Season 4 is just as bad


Season 1: great.
Season 2: acceptable continuation.
Season 3: insufferably bad.
Season 4: more of season 3 and in some ways worse.

I had heard from usually credible sources that S4 righted the ship that had gone off course so badly in S3. I'm not seeing it. An important aspect of S1 was the balance of time spent developing the adult characters along with the kiddie poos. Since S3, at least, almost every moment has been spent on the kids and their tiresome growing pains with school and romance. Once essential adult characters like Jim and Joyce are now relegated to dealing with absurd and not particularly interesting scenarios like escaping from a Russian gulag. Previously, they were interacting with the kids and trying to unravel the various monster mysterious, an interaction which made all the characters more interesting in a Spielberg like manner. In fact, it was better than Spielberg because this show didn't treat every adult as a dense, insufferable cynic needing rescue from the unspoiled spirits of the youth they sired.

The present kid-centric slant would have been far more tolerable were it not for some crippling problems. For starters, the original kiddiepoo cast has grown older and less charming in the classic Fred Savage sort of way. The college-age looking Will character just mopes around with an unconvincing look of perpetual concern on his face. His brother Jonathan is about as exciting as an unconscious heroin addict. Lispy Dustin has now been completely Fred Savaged. Mike and Lucas were dull to begin with and age hasn't helped any. Nancy just looks really weird to my eyes now, but I know it's in the eye of the beholder. The best characters, Eleven and Steve, are still very good even with the writing haven taken a nosedive. This is a testament to Millie Brown and Joe Keery being far and away the best actors among the kids.

Probably the worst problem is the horrible cast of kids introduced after S1. Mad Max wears every second the bitchy "I'm too good to be here" look and is entirely unappealing (where's Deadpool when you need him?). Billy Hargrove and Eddie Munson are lame caricatures of 80s bad boys and not funny in the slightest. The now obligatory lesbian character, Robin, is shallow and annoying. Her little sideshow romance with her high school bandmate is painfully forced. And the worst stereotypical archetype of the lot is Lucas's sister Erica, whose only purpose seems to be to provide bratty, foul-mouthed comic relief but utterly fails to do so thanks mainly to incompetent camera-mugging acting.

It's a pity this show has gotten so dull. Still watchable, but a turd compared to S1.

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Season 4 is definitely not without it's flaws e.g. Hopper in Russia dragged, retreading tired ground with El back in the lab etc., but overall it was a return to form. Season 2 was already showing signs of wear and getting cliched, while season 3 was dull and felt like the show had stalled. In fact we could have missed out season 3 all together and just add the few important bits on to season 4...it wouldn't have made much difference. Season 4 at least felt like it had a more substantial foe and there was more at stake. It felt like there was more progression going on in terms of getting to the heart of what the Upside Down is about and why things were happening.

Whether season 5 will keep that up I'm not so sure. It feels like the rest of the story that needs telling could be done in the space of a couple of episodes. If they make it another 7/8/9 episode season again it'll be at risk of being seriously dragged and stretched out once again. I'd have even been happy leaving the show as it was with the end of season 4.

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I guess that only works if you accept vecna is a formidable foe. The dude is a copy and paste of Freddy Krueger. Once you can see it, it becomes meaningless. They went from making this show a love letter to D&D and Lovecraft, to turning it into an 80s slasher. The show is complete garbage now.

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Very good analysis of Season 4 and why it pales in comparison to Season 1.

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So, what’s the point in continuing? Why do viewers persist with shows that are clearly creatively bankrupt?

Geez. Life is short.

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There's a level of hope that it's gotten better, the reviews point to it being good, the whole 'don't knock it till you try it'. Also, there's the interest in knowing where the story goes/ends. Even if it's not as good as the previous seasons and it doesn't rise to the same level as the prior work, it can still be worth a person's time to watch and enjoy various moments.

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You make very good points and I respect them. I am a Boomer. I am not the target demographic for Stranger Things; but I am concerned that younger people may invest too much of themselves in something not going anywhere. God knows, we all do this with romantic relationships! As we mature (age!), we tend to cut our losses more quickly. No matter what our age, all life is finite and indescribably precious. Sometimes I like to suggest to my younger peers that there be better uses for their time. I hope you continue to enjoy Stranger Things.

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I came here to write something similar, except I’d go one further…

S1: Was very good.
S2: Was like… whole series nothing, then eleven saves day at end.
S3: well… what happened? It became just a show for kids. A kids coming of age series. Without humour, just really unlikable characters.

I think you hit the nail on the head - s01 - maybe it’s always been a kids show, and I didn’t see it - because the adult characters had so much “story” to tell. The kids were also dealing with the main issue of the “upside down” - and finding their friend.

S3 just seemed to be about nothing but kids issues.

I couldn’t finish 3, stopped when they decided the Russian message. So will never see 4.

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season 2 was the worst.
season 1 was great
season 3 was even better
season 4 was great, but episodes were too long.

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You're absolutely right. That's why I only watched Season 1. Thank you, it's the reviews that keep my time quality time!

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