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Weakest serial killer in the horror genre


I mean there are more scenes of the heroine bashing the serial killer rather than the other way round, which kinda loses the sadistic element of his personality which the director clearly wanted to evoke and makes me kinda feel bad for him losing all the time. Anyone else agree?

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No, that was the whole point. The director wanted you to realize that ANYONE can be a sadistic killer. He's a normal human, that shouldn't take out the sadistic feel for you. All serial killers are human and therefore they can die, that doesn't make them any less crazed or psychopathic. This guy just happened to pick a victim that was too smart.

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This guy just happened to pick a victim that was too smart.


She was smart, and not to downplay what she did to survive, but she was also very lucky at times. I think that mainly she benefited from the fact that he wildly underestimated both her abilities (despite being deaf/mute) and her will to live.

I see the movie as him deciding that he's going to toy around with a terrified little plaything. And as it becomes clearer that she's not as weak as he thought, he gets annoyed but is still fixated on wanting her to give in to her fear.

He could have killed her at any time, up to the point where he is injured. But his goal isn't just to kill her--it's to dominate her and make her submit. His mistakes were all mental, and were all due to him wanting the satisfaction of her giving up.

I found him frightening because the thought that someone might randomly show up to your house one night and want to kill you for no apparent reason (aside from his own lack of self-esteem or whatever) is horrifying. And it doesn't matter if he is a total mouth-breathing idiot. If someone is physically strong enough and armed with a weapon, you're already at a huge disadvantage. It's appropriate that what defeats him in the end is the assumption he made about how easy it would be to break the will of someone just because she was female and disabled.

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Get a gun then.

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Or I can just continue to take reasonable precautions and not spend every minute in the proximity of a loaded weapon. What if someone breaks into your house while you are in the shower? Or they are between you and the room where you keep the gun?

I think that the odds of me hurting myself with a gun are much higher than the odds that I'll actually have a chance to use one in self-defense. My point to the previous poster was that (1) just being firm with someone doesn't always stop them from being aggressive and (2) there are real people out there who target people they perceive as being weaker or vulnerable.

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You are certainly correct that gun safety is important. Therefore, attend a gun safety and marksmanship course. I doubt it will be that expensive.

I learned it during Basic and it is not that difficult. Getting marksman is, simply being competent is not.

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I know basic gun safety and operation. I lived for many years on a farm where we kept a rifle due to a (small) risk of animal attacks but more because our area was a rabies vector and putting down rabid raccoons was sometimes necessary.

I really have no interest in having a gun in my house. I think that the odds of me using it to defend myself are much lower than the odds that I (or someone else) would get hurt by accident. For me to feel safe with a gun in my house it would have to be unloaded and locked very securely (ie in a safe or something). I feel like I'd basically have to make the gun inaccessible.

I feel much better about the fact that I have a good alarm system, I have neighbors I can trust who know who should and should not be around my home, and I have "emergency exit" plans for pretty much any place in my house. I'm a flighter, not a fighter.

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If you abide by gun safety rules, you are very unlikely to hurt yourself.

Unless you are referring to young children, I see no reason why a full grown adult companion cannot understand a simple instruction as not touching your personal property (guns).

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The director wanted you to realize that ANYONE can be a sadistic killer. He's a normal human, that shouldn't take out the sadistic feel for you. All serial killers are human and therefore they can die, that doesn't make them any less crazed or psychopathic.


That message could've been effective if the killer spoke less and sounded less like a typical basement Internet troll.

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How do you know? Did the director tell you that?

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No, obviously he didn't tell me. But it's very obvious that's what he was going for. If you've watched enough crime shows, they do the same thing. They show how the killer can be anyone, and how they like to toy around with their victims before killing them. It's how the genre works. Famous examples would be the Scream movies. The killers COULD be anyone, and they DO toy around with their victims first. This movie is no different when it comes to that formula. The killer is just a normal looking, lanky middle aged guy. The kind of guy you'd see on the street and probably not pay much attention to, aside from the tattoo on his neck. He's just your "average joe", so to speak, and it's obvious that because of these traits, the director did this deliberately to show how not everyone is as they seem.

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Yep, and if this is done well in a movie it is very effective. Supernatural invincible villains are scary, but the idea that the events you see in a horror movie could be done in real life by any of the random acquaintances you have is much scarier.

This movie also evokes a sense of frustration that many horror movies don't. The fact that the main villain isnt infallible means that they can be defeated, but its frustrating and suspenseful when the heroine is just out of reach of being able to accomplish that. When Freddy Krueger or Jason Vorhees show up, its just a matter of them toying with the victim before killing them. When Hush guy shows up, its a more supsenseful ride to figure out what will end up happening.

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To be honest, Scream did a better job of trying to demonstrate that anyone could be a serial killer. The killers in Scream had no time to waste and were capable of being sadistic enough to make me want to see them get killed by the protagonists. The killer in Hush looked like such a doofus and he's like an adult toddler who can't vent his emotions properly. The only part where I could be motivated to say "he's such a sick *beep*" was when he crushed Maddie's hand with his feet. Ouch.

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The killer in Hush looked like such a doofus and he's like an adult toddler who can't vent his emotions properly.


Speaking personally (and particularly as a woman), you have just explained perfectly what makes him so frightening.

Plenty of guys will seem just like some doofus, but that doesn't matter the minute they start following you into a parking garage or grab your arm to keep you from walking away.

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Well I'm a guy so maybe my perspective doesn't resonate with you that much and its maybe why the director decided to make the main victim a female instead of a male (well there was a scene where the killer stabbed the protagonist's friend's boyfriend but that wasn't emphasised too much).

I view him as another coward who wants to get the attention of everyone else by doing extreme messed up *beep* Honestly, if the movie had the killer live and go to prison, the other inmates would bash him to death and call him a sissy etc.

Is he the type of guy who makes you uncomfortable and "unclean" and provokes you to say "this guy needs to shower"? Of course. Is he a guy that'll give you total nightmares that'll forever creep in the darkness of your mind? Not so much. He's a coward loser who thinks he's the next Jack the Ripper. He only managed to kill a man only because Maddie distracted him.

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I view him as another coward who wants to get the attention of everyone else by doing extreme messed up *beep*


I don't think he wants attention (because his audience ends up, well, dead). But I do think that he gets off on fear and dominance.

Honestly, if the movie had the killer live and go to prison, the other inmates would bash him to death and call him a sissy etc.

Is he the type of guy who makes you uncomfortable and "unclean" and provokes you to say "this guy needs to shower"? Of course. Is he a guy that'll give you total nightmares that'll forever creep in the darkness of your mind? Not so much. He's a coward loser.


Again, this is exactly why he is scary to me! This is not a guy who is interested in a fair fight. He openly admits that to the boyfriend. He deliberately chooses battles that he knows (or thinks) he can win.

It's men who have no qualms about coming into your home when you are alone, or choosing you as a victim because he perceives you as weak who are frightening. I don't find myself frightened of some sort of real-life Jason or Freddy. But men like the killer in this movie do scare me in real life. They are the reason my door is locked and my alarm is set. They do not haunt my nightmares, but they live in the periphery of my mind every time I am out in public alone, or in my house alone at night.

The coward losers can be the most dangerous because they think they have something to prove, but their idea of proving their manliness usually involves beating up or victimizing someone they think is weaker than them. The coward losers are the ones whose pride can't take it when you don't want them to buy you a drink, or who take it super-personally when you don't want to listen to them "flirt" with you.

I have not brushed shoulders with any serial killers (that I know of), but I recognize the emotional immaturity and need to dominate in this killer. Someone might be a loser, but that doesn't matter if he shows up at your house with a weapon. There was a news article I read a while back about a man who broke into the house of a lesbian couple seemingly just because he was tired of women rejecting him. His only purpose was to torture and humiliate them. One woman jumped out a second story window to rescue her wife, even as he stabbed her through the heart resulting in her death. Men like this exist.

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Get some self-defense lessons and the killer won't think you are a weaker individual. Cowardly men like deserve scorn rather than fear. By fearing them, you give them the satisifaction they desire to have-to make others fear them. In the end, you'll realise that they're nothing and this is shown in the ending of the movie.

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Get some self-defense lessons and the killer won't think you are a weaker individual.


I've had self-defense lessons. I trained in the martial arts when I was younger. I'm strong and tall and carry myself with a good posture.

But someone looking through my window at me while I'm sitting on the couch watching television? How is he going to deduce that?

It's all well and good to think that simply showing a man scorn would make him be afraid of you and back off. That is not how the world works, especially when there is the physical reality of someone being stronger than you are. No self-defense instructor in their right mind would tell you that the best strategy in a one-on-one confrontation is to show your attacker scorn--the best strategy is to do whatever you can to get out of the situation.

Men like this might be "nothing", but that doesn't mean they can't hurt you. You say that the man in the movie is nothing, and yet he manages to kill at least two people (and has probably killed more). Saying that they should have shown him scorn or should have presented themselves as stronger comes very close to blaming his victims.

It's also important to remember that this killer isn't afraid to play a crooked game. He uses weapons against an unarmed deaf woman. I can take all the self-defense lessons I like and show as much scorn as I like--it won't help me much if I'm unarmed and someone is pointing a crossbow at my face.

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I actually agree with you for this point.

In terms of reality, yea, he looked more realistic , limited capabilities like a normal human.

But in terms of being a movie, he was really weak, it even made me wonder through out most of the show if there is a twist, like the girl being the psycho instead etc............or anything special...but it didnt happen.

It was just a simple plot.

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