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Why didn't Ernest Augustus become King, rather than Victoria?


He was a son of George III. Why didn't he become king, rather than Victoria, a granddaughter of George III?

Edited to Add: I think I have the answer, but want to know if it is correct. Victoria was the daughter of Edward, who was an older son of George III than Ernest Augustus. So Edward's line would succeed, rather than Ernest.

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He was the 5th son of King George III, Victoria was the daughter of the 4th son Edward, Duke of Kent, he died when Victoria was six months else.

Now because she was a female she could not ascend to the throne of Hanover, which went by Salic law. George III, IV and William IV were both King of Britain and King of Hanover.

This is how Ernest Augustus became King of Hanover.

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You edited portion is correct. Since Victoria was from the senior line of brothers coming from George III, she inherited before her Uncle who was the 5th brother. and as stated since succession laws in Hanover and the UK were different, it allowed him to become King of Hanover, while she became Queen Regnet of the United Kingdom.

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In addition to what others have said, Ernst Augustus was not that good a schemer. Once Victoria ditched his inside man Conroy, he figured it was time to run back to Hanover.

I wonder if Ernst Augustus' scheme to have himself declared Regent for the child Queen had an impact on Victoria's later moves in Germany. She had her daughter Vicky marry the Prussian/German Crown Prince Friedrich Wilhelm (later the short-reigning Kaiser Friedrich.) Bismarck, Friedrich Wilhelm's father (Kaiser Wilhelm I) and son (Kaiser Wilhelm II) saw Vicky as a dangerous foreigner who tried to get Friedrich Wilhelm/Kaiser Friedrich to introduce what they saw as excessively liberal laws.

In contrast to Bismarck. Kaiser Wilhelm I and Kaiser Wilhelm II, Adolf Hitler did not see Britain as a threat to Germany and wanted an alliance with Britain.

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Dangerous foreigner? That is funny considering Victoria's family were Germans. Most of her children married Germans except Louise who married a Scotsman. As for the line of succession, Edward married Alexandra, a Danish princess (her father was a King of Denmark but his heritage was German and so was her mothers) Edward's son George V married a German, Mary of Teck and then their son, George VI married Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon who was Scottish (so that brought some 'British' blood into the mix). Elizabeth II married Phillip who brought back some of the German heritage along with some Russian. So the whole British vs German thing always irritates me. They were more German than British.




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They were more German than British.


If you went back 8 generations, and had to consider all 254 of your direct ancestors and they were all Swedish except for one great-great-great-great-great grandparent who was Greek, so that you were 1/254th Greek, and 253/254th Swedish, would you say you were SWEDISH or GREEK???

Yet, that is EXACTLY what you are "accusing" the British Royal family of being! You want them to be declared "German" because great-great-great-great-great grandpa Prince Albert was from a German duchy! (There was no country of "Germany" at that time; that didn't happen until 1871.) And, there were many "duchy's" from All OVER! Germany, Italy, France, Switzerland, the Netherlands. But, if they spoke anything other than English, YOU have decided they were "German." Even if they spoke Danish, or Norwegian, or Swedish, or various versions of French and Swiss; you STILL declare them to be "German" as if it were something shameful.

LOOK at this family history and STOP CALLING THEM GERMAN!

(1st generation) Prince George and Princess Charlotte are British by birth and by blood. (If William and Catherine are NOT Brits, what are they?)

(2nd generation) (2 parents) William and Catherine, the parents of George and Charlotte are British citizens with British blood.

(3rd generation) 4 grandparents: Charles, Diana, Michael and Carole, the parents of William and Catherine are British. Diana was a Brit, Michael and Carole are both Brits; that’s 75% right there! Charles is a Brit by birth with 1/2 British and Scottish blood from Mom and 1/4 Danish blood from his Dad (from his grandfather, King Christian of Denmark (which is SCANDINAVIAN not German), 1/4 British and German mixed from dad, from his mother, Princess Alice of Greece, who was a great-granddaughter of Queen Victoria, and was born in Windsor Castle with Queen Victoria in attendance, and has a combination of German and British blood). Charles is less than 1/4 (closer to 1/8th German; that does not make him a German. That means that LESS THAN 1/16 of ALL OF THAT’S GENERATIONS COMBINED BLOOD is GERMAN and 15/16ths is British and Scandinavian! Does it make the “English” throne German? NO!

(4th generation) 8 great-grandparents: The Queen, Prince Philip, Mr./Mrs. Spencer, Mr./Mrs. Middleton and Mr./Mrs. Goldsmith. Total of 8 great-grandparents are British by birth and “mostly” by blood. The Spencers, Middletons, and Goldsmiths are BRITISH; that is 75% again. The Queen is 1/2 Scottish and almost 1/2 British with a small portion of Scandinavian from her Great grandmother, Queen Alexandra; Prince Philip is 1/2 Danish and 1/4 English and 1/4 German mixed from his mother. (Danish is Scandinavian, not German). That means that out of 8 ancestors, Prince Philip’s mother, WHO WAS BORN IN WINDSOR CASTLE, and was a great-granddaughter to Queen Victoria, and which makes him LESS than 1/4 of “some German blood by a combination of extractions including English.” Does that make him a German? NO! Does 1/2 German mixed out of 8 make this a German throne? NO!

(5th generation) 16 great-great-grandparents: George VI and Elizabeth the Queen Mother, Prince Andrew and Princess Alice, the 2 parents of the Spencer and the 2 parents of the Roches (His parents and her parents) and the parents of the Middletons (His parents and her parents) and the parents of the Goldsmiths (His parents and her parents) and without contrary information, we assume they were “British.” Prince Andrew is Danish (the “Greek” was only the country his father is ruling; there is no “Greek” blood). DANISH IS SCANDINAVIAN, NOT GERMAN! Princess Alice was a descendent of Queen Victoria’s daughter, and was born in Windsor Castle, and had some “German” blood in combination with English blood, and the corresponding spouses are British. So, out of 16 EQUAL ancestors, we have ONE who is part German. Does ½ out of 16 make them GERMAN? NO!!!

(6th generation) 32 great-great-great-grandparents: George V and Queen Mary. George V’s mother was Danish (Scandinavian not German). His father is Edward VII, who was part German extraction and British. Queen Mary was born in Kensington Palace, on her father’s side, the German Duke of Tech, and her grandmother was the British Duchess of Cambridge. PLUS, there are THIRTY (30) OTHER GRANDPARENTS WHO WERE BRITISH that you are NOT considering!

(7th generation) 64 great-great-great-great-grandparents: Edward VII and Queen Alexandra. The parents of George V and Queen Mary are British and Danish (Scandinavian, not German); their spouses are British. There is some German from the Victoria side, via Prince Albert who was born in a German duchy (there was no country of Germany at that point). The other ancestors are BRITISH for lack of any other information. The parents of their spouses are British. So, out of 64 ancestors, we can safety assume that 62+ are 100% British.

(8th generation) 128 great-great-great-great-great-grandparents: Victoria and Albert. The parents of Edward VII and Queen Alexandra were: Victoria, BRITISH by birth and by HALF her blood (she had a German Princess as a mother); Prince Albert was born in a Duchy in the Holy Roman Empire and spoke German. HERE IS A REAL GERMAN PRINCE! Born and raised in a German Duchy. So out of 128 grandparents ONE is from an area that BECAME part of Germany, 30 years later, when Germany was made a country in 1871. You are saying he was "German" when Germany wasn't even a country.

So, the current Prince George and Princess Charlotte have 254 DIRECT ANCESTORS GOING BACK TO QUEEN VICTORIA. Out of that 254, ONE was a German Prince (Prince Albert). Their other grandparents have been “mixtures” of German (half less each time) and that means that there isn’t more than a drop of German blood left in George. And, FOOLS are only considering only 1 of their relatives IN EACH GENERATION, when there are MORE British people intermarrying IN EACH GENERATION OF ROYALS (since Alexandra)! The claim that the Royal Family is “German” is based on STUPIDITY (or just ignorance) by IGNORING all the other relatives. And, folks who just “hate” Royals in general and the British Royals in particular. It is NOT a “linear line” of ROYALS! Each “spouse” brings HALF the next generations blood!!! And, it MULTIPLIES exponentially! These are BRITISH Royals; not German! To claim otherwise is PURE IGNORANCE (or someone who is hopeless in math and thinks that one is more than 253!

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Can't argue with your facts, but...whew...your tone is something else.

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Can't argue with your facts, but...whew...your tone is something else.


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Well-played!

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Victoria herself says that if you go back far enough her entire family is German, however you choose to define "German" in historical context.

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Royals will often pick their consorts from other countries though, even today.
Like, none of the monarchs of Sweden since 1592 have had a Swedish-born consort!
And because there were so many German principalities, royals from other countries often married Germans.
And even a commoner like Silvia Sommerlath was yet another German to become the queen of Sweden!
However, it is indeed ridiculous to call the British royal family anything but British now.
It is funny though that all English monarchs since 1066 have been descendants of William I, a Norman.

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The Duke of Cumberland left for Hanover not long after his niece's accession; those machinations with Conroy never happened, other than in Daisy Goodwin's tiny brain. Victoria was not a "child Queen"; at 18, many women were already married. Victoria and Albert wanted to promote good relations between their country and their German relatives; unfortunately, suspicions arose, as you said.

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