Any bets on how fast it gets cancelled? Three episodes?
It is like "Lie To Me" but poorly written and poorly acted and no Tim Roth.
I noticed the similarities to Lie to Me, as well. I liked that show! I'll keep watching Bull to see how it settles in after a few episodes.
shareBet it lasts the entire season.
and probably gets picked up for a second season as well.
A Mountain Lion does not concern himself with the opinion of sheep.
I suspect you are correct, but not because it is a really good show. It has the advantage of being nestled between the more popular NCIS shows, and people just don't change the channel. Notice the ratings, the actual number of viewers stayed quite stable, meaning people just stayed on CBS.
shareWhen NCIS: LA followed NCIS it didn't maintain the audience which is actually why it it was moved after a couple of years.
shareI realize that, but I said the two most popular NCIS shows. LA has moved to Sunday night where tv shows go to die. LA was never as popular as NOLA was when it first came on the scene, and NOLA looses a few million viewers as the evening progresses.
Bull really has a plum time spot.
NOLA never maintained it's lead-in from the mothership. Bull maintained 100% of the lead in it got.
shareIt did. For the pilot. And I fully expected that.
It's mission is to maintain those numbers. I won't be altering their numbers, because I plan on watching next week.
I think what is the *real* discussion here is the unwillingness of several posters to look too closely at the show and recognize anything that may be construed as a weakness. And this show has a lot of room for improvement. But, a lot of shows find their footing a few episodes beyond the pilot. Which is why I try not to give up after just one episode.
To reiterate, Bull has room for improvement and, for me, as it is written Michael Weatherly is not reason enough to continue if it doesn't improve. For me. I won't try to convince you if you'll stop trying to convince me.
Statistically speaking, all new shows lose a certain % of their pilot audience in the following weeks.
& actually the *real* discussion here is the unwillingness of far too many to jump all over the show & Weatherly like starving rabid dogs. The pilot was filmed during a 2 week period while NCIS was still filming and most of the cast was also doing plays etc. Many fans are more than willing to actually judge the show on what was filmed this summer once the Bull cast was reunited to begin work on the actual series. The upcoming episodes are the ones that need careful dissecting, discussion etc.
Are you a paid apologist for the show?
*You* know minutia about the show, it's filming schedule, who wrote what, and frankly the average viewer doesn't know any of that and they really don't care. They will respond to the 43 minutes+commercials they just sat through. It has nothing to do with jumping on anyone; it has everything to do with saying, whew, that could have been better. And if it wasn't up to prime time standards because of the filming schedule, then they shouldn't have aired it! But they did, and it got good ratings, and some negative feedback on IMDb.
This is the way it works. I haven't read anyone specifically dumping on any one character. I thought the millennial hacker was weird, a complete trope, and a waste of time. I actually liked to fashion dude. He was competent without being a stereotype. Hurray.
So--reason to return, reason to hope for better, and reason to be somewhat annoyed.
Here's a bit of 'newsflash' for you.
You're on a message board. That makes you involved in 'fandom'. There'fore you should know that the minutiae as you put it is actually public information and very much out there. The 'average viewer' can find it if they so desire or they might just run into it if they live in or are visiting NY. Or for that matter if they happen to watch any of the mindless entertainment television or read their newspaper, listen to a radio or watch their own local news.
As far as whether or not it was 'up to prime time standards', it did what it was supposed to do Introduce the main character to the audience period. Now they start showing us the team, their interactions and the stories of the TAC. *This* is the way it works - per interviews with the producers and cast.
Well, that was a dull newsflash.
Anna, most people don't care. They don't care what goes on behind the scenes, they don't chase down interviews, they don't care how long something was filmed or anything else. They look at their tv schedule and think, oh, I'll watch that. Or, and I think this happens a lot, NCIS is over and they're too lazy to change the channel. Most people are passive viewers of their television.
I have friends in just about every age group from their 20's to 70's, and none of them use IMDb. As a matter of fact, none of them even knew what it was! It was shocking to me, but such an eye opener. Very few people care as much about tv as I do. I read the critics and the responses of other viewers. I find it all fascinating. But I am not as invested in any one show or actor as you are. So, you are preaching to someone who really doesn't care.
I will continue to watch, or not. I will continue to notice weak spots, and I will cheer when things are done well. But I don't think I'll ever be a stan. I don't have the time or energy for it.
I will continue to watch, or not. I will continue to notice weak spots, and I will cheer when things are done well. But I don't think I'll ever be a stan. I don't have the time or energy for it.
And therein is the lie: I haven't pissed on anything. I think it could be better. But that isn't good enough, I have to goose step to your agenda, or I'm taking "...time to piss all over it for weeks..."
Sheesh.
Belaboring the point in multiple threads on multiple boards before the pilot episode even airs qualifies as pissing
shareWhich I did not do.
Your continued attempt to make this about *me* and not the show is getting very tiresome.
Maybe some day you will recognize the difference between posting my personal opinion to the show vs "pissing" on it.
I want you to think about something....no need to respond, because, frankly, I'm done. But think: more than 800 people have rated this show and its average is 6.4. I would *never* rate a show until I've seen 2-3 episodes, so that number does not include my opinion. So, while a number of people feel this show has room for improvement, you and your cheer squad continually belittle every post I make. Why do you think that is? Because, personally, I find it curious.
Giving an opinion is making a post and walking away, not endlessly harping the point to death.
As far as the show's ratings, it's been proven that many on here rate based on anything but the actual episode or show in question. & I'm laughing at the 'belittling' claim....
most people don't care. They don't care what goes on behind the scenes
They look at their tv schedule and think, oh, I'll watch that. Or, and I think this happens a lot, NCIS is over and they're too lazy to change the channel. Most people are passive viewers of their television.
As a matter of fact, none of them even knew what it was! It was shocking to me, but such an eye opener.
And now you've gone full circle, belaboring the point I made at the beginning of this subject over on the NCIS board. They have aired *one* episode, and it was weak, but had room for improvement.
It's the "room for improvement" that you and your squad won't let go unchecked. Just because I think it could be better, I'm being mean, I don't love your precious, I'm just trying to make you unhappy, or whatever.
Whatever, indeed.
It wasn't weak in the slightest....and there's room for *development*, which is far far different from 'improvement'
shareQuite reminiscent of Lie to Me, so I will give it a few more episodes to see how it settles in. i like MW, but he is no Tim Roth. I imagine it will last the season regardless.
shareMy first exposure was the beginning of the second episode. I concluded it was not worth watching the moment they said the plane crashed 3 miles from Albany airport.
The attention to detail was my immediate turn-off. Have none of the writers, production people, director...ever been in a plane before? There just is no way that narrative plays out on a flight. I'm not writing about the turbulence. The flight attendant would have been strapped in already as the plane would be in the flyway by this point, to crash that close to the airport. If you don't care about getting universally known details correct, it proves you don't care about the production; and if you don't care about that, you're going to produce a show I want no part of watching. It's insulting and unnerving.
Thank you for validating that it was in upstate NY near Albany (3-4 hours from NYC). And yet the trial ends up back in NYC? Much like the first episode where the gal appears to die in the Bahamas yet the trial is in NYC?
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