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The Zimmerman Debacle Was Also Altered


The voice inquiry by 911 as to the appearance of the suspect was omitted. Instead you hear Zimmerman (without being questioned by the operator on the suspect's description) saying it was a black male as in he's going hunting. The liberal press refuses to be honest along with bullsqueze documentarians. If I had a son, he would be like......not Trayvon!

He killed sixteen Czechoslovakians. Guy was an interior decorator.

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It's so much easier for you to close your eyes and ears and deny everything. You lose nothing when you allow yourself to be willing to listen.

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Who's closing their eyes and ears?

911 call transcript from the night George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin:

Zimmerman:

We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.

This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman:

He looks black.


911 dispatcher:

Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, a dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. He wore jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now … he’s just staring. [00:42]

911 dispatcher:

He’s just walking around the area, the houses? OK.

Zimmerman:

Now he’s staring at me. [00:48]

911 dispatcher:

OK, you said that’s 1111 Retreat View or 111?

Zimmerman:

That’s the clubhouse.

911 dispatcher:

He’s near the clubhouse now?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band.

And he’s a black male.[1:03]

911 dispatcher:

How old would you say he is?

Zimmerman:

He’s got something on his shirt. About like his late teens.

911 dispatcher:

Late teens?

Zimmerman:

Uh, huh.

Something’s wrong with him. Yep, he’s coming to check me out.

He’s got something in his hands. I don’t know what his deal is. [01:20]

911 dispatcher:

Let me know if he does anything, OK?

Zimmerman:

OK.

911 dispatcher:

We’ve got him on the wire. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.

Zimmerman:

OK.

These *beep* They always get away.

When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and you go left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse. [1:39]

911 dispatcher:

OK, so it’s on the left hand side of the clubhouse?

Zimmerman:

Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left.

He’s running. [2:08]

911 dispatcher:

He’s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:

Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]

911 dispatcher:

OK, which entrance is that he’s headed towards?

Zimmerman:

The back entrance.

[It sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, ‘F-ing coons’ at 2:22]

NOTE:

[Listen here at 1:17 for CNN’s edited frame]
911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, what’s your last name?

Zimmerman:

Zimmerman.

911 dispatcher:

What’s the phone number you’re calling from?

Zimmerman:

407-435-2400

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

Zimmerman:

Yeah.

911 dispatcher:

Alright, where are you going to meet with them at?

Zimmerman:

Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck. [3:10]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]

Zimmerman:

Um, I don’t know. It’s a cut-through so I don’t know the address. [3:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK, do you live in the area?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, yeah, I live here.

911 dispatcher:

OK, what’s your apartment number?

Zimmerman:

It’s a home. It’s 1950 – oh, crap, I don’t want to give it out – I don’t know where this kid is [inaudible] [3:40]

911 dispatcher:

OK, do you just want to meet with them at the mailboxes then? [3:42]

Zimmerman:

Yeah, that’s fine. [3:43]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, I’ll let them know you’ll meet them at …

Zimmerman:

Could you have them call me and I’ll tell them where I’m at? [3:49]

911 dispatcher:

OK, that’s no problem.

Zimmerman:

My number … you’ve got it?

911 dispatcher:

Yeah, I’ve got it. 435-2400?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, you got it.

911 dispatcher:

OK, no problem. I’ll let them know to call you when they’re in the area. [4:02]

Zimmerman:

Thanks.

911 dispatcher:

You’re welcome.

Call ends 4:07


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So what, everybody already heard it when it happened. They couldnt play the whole tape, what does that have to do with him killing Trayvon or any of the facts?

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him describing Trayvon as a black male isn't what most people question. Its a) whether or not he mumbled "******* coon" under his breath and b) why he continued following Martin after he was given direct orders by a police office dispatcher NOT to.

Oh, Im sorry. Did I break your concentration?

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Well, no one outside of The Young Turks and their moronic viewership thinks Zimmerman said "coons", which is a word mainly used by black people to describe other black people who they deem to have 'sold out'.

As to your second point, a) Police dispatchers don't give orders b) "We don't need you to do that" isn't an order, and c) Trayvon Martin had already reached his destination, that's in his girlfriend's testimony, and went back specifically to confront Zimmerman.


Point them with the sticky end.

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Uh,no. Martin's friend said that he told her this "creepy-a** cracker" was following him and that he was trying to get away from him, when he shouted and his phone was suddenly cut off. If you look at the questioning of Zimmerman by the police, even the detectives grilling him about the shooting didn't believe his side of the story, and one of them (the older dude) even recommended he be brought up on murder charges. Zimmerman's claim that Martin came back to confront him makes no sense---especially since Martin was clearly scared of this total stranger following him. Also, Zimmerman seemed to think that he could do the police's job just because he had a gun. I frankly stopped believing anything that came out of Zimmerman's mouth years ago, for the simple fact that every time he got in a confrontation with someone, he's always blamed the other person, and never seems to take responsibility for the situation. It's always someone else's fault, according to him. Even his ex-wife (the one he threatened to shoot, along with his father-in-law) said she no longer believed his account of what happened that night. I also don't know why people still believe his account of what happened with Martin, because I never believed it. I also find it interesting that he never testified in his own behalf--probably because he knew his story wouldn't hold up in court. He almost got shot by a white guy he threatened to kill over a year ago, which is probably why his stupid a** is no longer in the spotlight. Just recently, he got his a** kicked by another white dude he started messing with at a restaurant--of course he provoked it:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/05/youre-bragging-about-that-george-zimmerman-assaulted-after-boasting-about-killing-trayvon-martin-police-say/

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Zimmerman was found not guilty, with all the evidence presented and every race-baiting halfwit in the country baying for blood. Get over it.

Point them with the sticky end.

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Zimmerman, despite being a loser, was getting the crap beaten out of him when he pulled the trigger. The forensic evidence was what got him off as the forensic expert showed convincingly that the gun shot evidence indicated that Martin was shot from below, which corroborated Zimmerman's testimony that he was getting pummeled from above.

It also was comical that the movie used a photo of Martin when he was like 100 pounds lighter and looked like a little kid. that was not what he looked like when he was beating up Zimmerman.

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saying it was a black male as in he's going hunting

He literally did that. The police explicitely told him not to follow him. Had Zimermman not harass him, Trayvon would be alive today

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A 911 operator is not an a police officer.

What bothers you more? The fact that Trayvon Martin was a violent racist or the fact that George Zimmerman is one of your precious "People of Color"?

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Zimmerman harassed Martin, eh? By watching him while he was casing houses? And that necessitated Martin violently assaulting him? Had Martin not thought it was a good idea to jump an armed man he'd still be alive today, drinking lean and robbing houses.

Point them with the sticky end.

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That was Zimmerman and your racist assumption. A black young man walking with a hoodie on means he's about to steal. Again, had Zimmerman mind his own business, racist gun nuts would have to look elsewhere for a hero

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Assumption? Zimmerman could see Martin, you couldn't, so why exactly are you better placed to judge whether he was looking to rob something?

The fact that Martin was serving a suspension from school after stolen jewellery and a burglary tool were found in his locker is just sheer coincidence, I suppose.

The fact that he had taken an hour to walk to the store and back, in the rain, despite it being about ten minutes walking distance is also not suspicious?

Again, had Martin not jumped Zimmerman, he wouldn't have got shot.

Point them with the sticky end.

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