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Ewan McGregor: "The Prequels were underrated" | Agree to Disagree


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDCMos-4QQE


Never saw this cool interview but if you didn't also, it's a fun watch.

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No, they fucking suck. This revisionist history is absurd and I'm tired that it keeps gaining steam. It's been going on a while now and not only has it not died down, but keeps growing. Those movies were not liked. I'm sick of Lucas acolytes pretending they were.

I will say though, that TPM ended up being the best one.

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IYHO

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No, not MY opinion. The reviews on several sites and countless comments on message boards speak for themselves.

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But they don't ALL say the same thing.

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Thank you. I remember I was young when they came out. But they were NOT liked. Everyone hated Jar Jar. Everyone hated Hayden's pathetic acting. Overall, they were universally disliked. Now that is not to say they didn't have their defenders and their fans because they did. But enough.

I agree the revisionist history is beyond annoying. NOOOOW everyone is coming out of the woodworks saying how much they like Jar Jar, conveniently after the poor actor explained the death threats and how he became depressed. Noooooooooow everyone thinks Hayden is a brilliant actor who is completely misunderstood.

Like enough people. And yes while i acknowledge the writing was bad I'm beyond tired of the age-old excuse of "it's the writers fault not the actors." It's like in the NFL "it's not the QB's fault it's ALLL the offensive line." I'm sorry I don't buy into that apologetic nonsense and I never will. It's a crutch that too many people use to defend actors they like. I don't buy it. Ewan, and Ian, and Christopher Lee, all starred in the same prequels that Hayden starred in and those three gave quality performances despite the bad writing. But with Hayden it's all the writing. Gotcha.

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It's fucking nauseating. Now as someone who does not like his performance in the prequels at all, I'm perfectly fine with him coming back. And he did well. But don't tell me those movies or his performance were good.

"And yes while i acknowledge the writing was bad I'm beyond tired of the age-old excuse of "it's the writers fault not the actors."

Yes!!! I hate that. Never the actor's fault.

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I agree with that as well. I'm fine with him coming back and getting a second shot. But yes that doesn't mean we can revise history and magically Hayden is a great actor.

People also forget Hayden has had multiple opportunities Post-Star Wars and his films didn't produce. Awake, Takers, New York I love You, and even jumper. Ironically Jumper was supposed to be a series of films, but that never happened due to the box office failure of that original movie. So the guy had had chances and there is a reason he ended up on the Lifetime network.

And yes the amount of people who cling to that "it's not the actors fault" defense nauseate me to no end. Take George Clooney for example. To this day the man still apologizes for Batman and Robin. He acknowledges the movie was terrible, and he was terrible in it (like a boss). But his fans still insist it was ALLL the writers fault and George has nothing to do with that phoned in, half assed, joke of a performance. Now does that mean Clooney is a bad actor? Not by any means. But it's like baseball. Nobody bats 1000. Everyone strikes out now and then.

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To be fair, that scene with Portman when he goes "No, it's because I'm so in love with you" is truly breathtaking stuff...

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Everyone likes Jar Jar because of the fan theories that came thereafter. Darth Jar Jar. :p

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The story for the prequels was great. The crappy over-saturated CGI was not.

If you combined the story of the prequels with the visuals of the sequels you’d have a fine Star Wars Trilogy.

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1. The story was not great.

2. The CGI was faaaaaaaaaar from the only problem those movies have.

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IYHO

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At least the prequels weren't boring. Although not as good the originals they are fun to watch and have replay value. I was thinking about that the other day while I was trying to watch the sequels again. It felt like a chore getting through TFA and ROS, and I was so utterly bored watching the TLJ that I just turned it off about half way

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There's some good stuff in the prequels! Specifically, everything that isn't about those young nitwits is good, which makes the prequels... half good.

The scenes depicting the rise of Palpatine are actually brilliant, and it's too bad they're treated as less important than the relationship between two young fools who are played by actors who are totally lost. Which is Lucas's fault and not theirs, he's not known as "The worst actor's director alive" for nothing.

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https://youtu.be/bMvdGw2FnDA

Like this scene?

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Yes. I LOVE the Palpatine of the prequels!

And I unironically love McDiarmuid's performance, which skirted the edge of going over the top and camp without falling over the edge, until the climactic moment when it was time to GO BIG!!! And he was working without a director, too, because Lucas doesn't trouble his actors with directions or anything.

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Ian McDiarmid was great.....until he revealed who he was. Then he turned into a twirling, cackling, weird face making cartoon.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/087/250/323.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3DHDXAzoBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFUs7E8liZU&t=10s

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The prequels are not great. Not terrible but not even remotely close to the OT. They are substantially better then the ST but that is a discussion for another time but i'm sure someone will chime in shilling for Disney.

None of the 3 films as a whole are overly good but in each they have glimpses of what could have been. The story is there. It was just implemented poorly.

But at least we got Duel of the Fates and Darth Maul lightsaber battle. Worth watching Phantom Menace just for the last 20 mins.

Attack of the clones is the poorest of the 3 and to this day hasn't aged very well at all. The fight with the genosians looks shocking now.

But to be fair Revenge of the Sith is not half bad. You finally get to see the slow demise of Anakin into Vader and I enjoyed that when I saw it originally and still do. Plus the opening space fight is pretty decent as well.

Like I originally said. They all have smatterings of something good that with a better director (I love you George but you are no director) it could have been great. But they are what they are now.

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They're benefiting from nostalgia now as many people who were young and watched them as kids are now adults and have a fondness for them. They'll be getting championed by that generation.

A secondary point which isn't mentioned much is strength of competition with regards to comparisons. When the PT came out it was directly and exclusively measured against the OT, it came up short for most. Now it is being measured against the ST also. Some people prefer it over the new ones so it becomes a case of 'well maybe I was too harsh on them, things have gotten worse'.

The second point has applied to me at times with regards to Horror sequels. Some I disliked upon first viewing, only to revisit years later and realize I consider them a lot better than the sequels/remakes that came after. It does help you warm up to them a bit after years of disregarding them.

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I agree. I was in my later 20's early 30's during the prequels. ROTS is my all time favorite Star Wars.i liked TPM and really like AOTC. All the stupid nip picky buy fans was completely stupid. No real continuity issues etc. The Jar jar complaints that he was too childish??
EVERYONE OF THOSE COMPAINERS CAN GO JUMP IN THE LAKE. These are the same stupid asses that never complain about the stupider ewoks that took up at least a THIRD of ROTJ and call that abomination a superior film over the Prequels....idiots..

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