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He is right. Apocalypse had the power to control the world easily. He knows that this world is controlled by weak and corrupt politicians (for example see what's happening in Europe, with native europeans being wiped out because of their corrupt sionist leaders). So he proceeded to destroy first the weak's machines that led the weak to overrun the strong ones. Then to assume control himself instead of the corrupt leaders the world has. He failed at that last one, first and foremost because he failed to plan better, but ultimately because Phoenix was stonger and was on the weak's side. Shame Apoc didn't win. From the ashes of their world, we could have built a better one for everybody. Actually, i have some counter-arguments to your explanation. [quote]I think Apocalypse looks and sounds plenty intimidating, but that's a subjective matter of taste.[/quote] He doesn't, at least to me, but looking at many well-casted and well-portrayed villains for many movies, i think that Apoc was bad "decorated", he has a very bad design. A good villain tends to look tall, big, imposing, dark features (blue gray to dark blue gray would be a better color). Look at this picture for example, to give you an idea of what could have been but wasn't. http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Apocalypse-1-665x385.jpg https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1xQlBWBhBv4/V6imp2tlRpI/AAAAAAAAEEQ/cIku-zqAEU4YHQkPml15RNk59arNaFFywCLcB/s1600/x-men-apocalipsis.jpg http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/07/apocalypse-cosplay-vs-movie-146212.jpg http://www.elmulticine.com/imagenes/noticias/12/x-men-apocalipsis-fanart2.jpg Tall, big , dark tends to frighten humans. That's why the one casted should have been at least 1.90m tall. But anyway, it's just "taste"... [quote]So he does plenty of "God" like wrath in the short time he was present in our era.[/quote] Yes, he does. BUT, it was only about a few hours at most. In the original comic, he conquered part of U.S.America for many months / years. In my opinion, it would have been better, if the villain looks menacing, to end him winning this, even killing charles (i.e.: xteam kills charles to prevent his power being taken). And then entering the "age of apocalypse" that so many of us true fans have waited to see in the big screen. Then do a 2nd movie where he would be defeated by Cable and Magneto, and then restoring the timeline where Charles lives (or something like that). [quote]The movie does explain what Apocalypse wants; "To control everything...to control, EVERYONE". His philosophy is presented as "the weak will die and only the strong will survive", and that could be his ultimate goal, it's his stated goal and he tells Xavier about how throughout the millennia he's been there to "spark the flames of civilization" but if you pay attention to the film it really seems as if that's just an excuse for him to obtain more power for himself. In short, he's got a very obvious God Complex.[/quote] He has some sort of God Complex, but only because he has the amount of power and capacity needed to became one in an operative sense; i.e.: a god can control a group of phenomena completely (climate, water, etc.) With enought mutants being swallowed, he could have become a true "god" in the sense of being everywhere, anywhere. But that's not the point, he wants to control everything because he has the power to. You are now a partial ant for your government, so am i, and you cannot control some things because government controls it for you, even sometimes not giving a f.. about your well-being. That crude is real life, and he wanted to conquer countries / the world because he can, not more nor less. Probably civilization exists in that fictious reality because he constructed enormous pyramids and cities, organizing mankind, and pushing mankind to defeat him with even more organization. [quote]He's not the type of character that one can connect to, no. He certainly is a cartoonish supervillain[/quote] He's not what you portray of him, well about the movie you are right, but it could have been presented in a way where someone can connect to his ideals. I , for one, understand that he's right, sionism and other global agenda is contrary to mankind's well being and progress, so another "power" entering the field would be a lot better than having almost all governments sion-controlled. Did you think about the last part of the movie for a minute? Even Charles agrees that the "non-nukes" world is a better one? In the brief moment that Apoc was there, he wiped out that super-power from villanous humans to use one against the other, oppresing noble people (like in Syria) with the threat of bombing if not obeying. Current politics is no different what Apocalypse wanted to do. We could all have related to if his motives where better explained. [quote]As for why Apocalypse doesn't simply slay the X-Men,[/quote] He was very kind and pityful for his own "children", as he himself said. He didn't kill them probably because he wants them to exist. His ideal world consist of his children battling themselves to see who's fit to survive. There are many cases where he could have smashed the hell out of x-guys but didn't. [quote]I hope that adequately answers your concerns over the character. [/quote] It was a bad movie ruining one of the most iconic villains that x-men has. He should have been a real menace and his demise should have been a very long and complex one, instead of "rushing to Cairo and see what happens". Both X and Apoc didn't plan a bit. Both rushed to their View all replies >