MovieChat Forums > ps48
ps48 (64)
Posts
Passing each other in hallways
Something I've always wondered about TNG is
Do Voyager episodes typically have no wrap-up scenes?
Very nice thriller.
It was alright. (spoilers)
"Where's Jeremiah?" (spoiler)
Good
Explanation..? No
Oh dear. (spoilers)
Great sci-fi/puzzle movie.
View all posts >
Replies
This can't be serious
I would've also preferred it without the final twist, because... after having seen the ending and knowing what really happened, then, thinking about the entire movie in retrospect, it feels lazy that every piece of evidence that proves the hospital was evil (and that he wasn't hallucinating) can be excused simply by, "Well, he was just imagining that, too."
It reminds me of something my middle school writing teacher encouraged us to avoid - to never end your story with, "and then he/she woke up, because it was all a dream. The End." And that's kind of what this movie did, with the slight difference that the movie is actually suggesting to the audience, several times, that it is indeed a dream (or "hallucination" - same thing, in the context of a movie w/ a twist), but I'm not so sure that that excuses that plot device.
It was still entertaining to watch, but yeah, I also think the final ending made the rest of the movie somewhat of a letdown.
I've seen that one also, and I agree! There are lots of problems with the movie, starting when they arrive at the other guy's cabin near the end, including the very end.
Haha I do have a tendency to nitpick, probably only because I've watched the show so much, so all the little things pop out more and more. :)
I think TNG was really ambitious because they had to create this new world where humans sometimes have totally different perspectives than we do now. For example, Dr. Crusher saying in The Neutral Zone that, "In the past, people feared dying; it terrified them!" Well, no shit! I always thought this line was super weird, BUT, I do understand that this was just the writers trying to make the humans of TNG seem "different" than us.
Whereas typically in most other sci-fi shows, at least the ones that I've seen, humans still act/talk/think pretty much exactly like we do today. Not necessarily true with TNG, hence quite ambitious, and since it was perhaps more ambitious than usual, there are quite a few little flaws and inconsistencies here and there. Doesn't make it bad of course :)
In addition to everyone being in good shape, have you also noticed that almost everyone has perfect posture? Everyone stands up straight with their arms at their sides. Nobody is ever slouching or leaning. Even in turbolifts, rather than stand against a wall, they stand in the center.
I'm not sure whether this detail was intended to be because of the military environment, or if it was intended to say, "in the future, everyone has great posture because everyone is more health-conscious," or maybe a combination of both. Either way, I love this detail about TNG. It gives it a rather unique tone.
Pardon me for being dense but can you rephrase? You say it would've been good storytelling if the randoms interacted a tad more (I agree), but then you refer to the thread as silly, so I'm unsure if you are in support of, or in opposition to the notion. (But I repeat; I am dense. :) )
Be sure, I wasn't suggesting that the main actors stop and have conversations with the randoms, I just found it funny/awkward that they never seem to make any room for them even slightly, and adding in that little detail wouldn't have really ever hindered story flow and might've made the ship enviroment feel a hair more legitimate.
I agree, I think so too.
Yep this was my take too. I always imagined that the idea is that:
1.) Replicators were able to balance nutrients better, leading to better health.
2.) And, I don't know for sure if money still existed on Earth in TNG -- For example in Family, Picard's brother is critical about all the new technology like replicators, which clarifies that not every household is required to have one, but does that mean they must be purchased in some manner? Or are they free if you request one? Those details being unclear aside -- I think they were trying to imply that greed in human societies was no longer a thing, which would mean no more cheap food being mass-produced, precisely because it is cheap to make, even if it's giving everyone loads of health problems.
It's a fine argument, but there are even episodes where randoms step aside for WESLEY, or other low-rank, or unranked characters. Whoever the camera is focused on, whether it be the Captain, an ensign, some aliens, an unranked or civilian -- the random crewmembers will always awkwardly squeeze by the side to get around them.
In the episode Q-Pid, is the only instance I can remember where a random walking by actually politely acknowledges a main cast member in a corridor. As Picard is walking to Vash's quarters, a random walks by, and says "Captain" with a quick nod. This seems in line with TNG's philosophy of treating others with respect and as equals, and I would've expected to see this kind of thing more often. Yes they have ranks, but I've never seen Picard or Riker treat other crewmembers as if they "mattered less," EXCEPT in the corridor scenes where they're forced to awkwardly squeeze by, which is why I think it was an oversight.
View all replies >