https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/20/democrats-impeachment-lawyer-noah-feldman-trump-not-impeached/?fbclid=IwAR24WB0Z7vpxylrII0suUe-vH4FDNUqdXS7x0TMKiV6BwSJItHbzLxQ26TU
Technically not until Nancy turns over the articles to the Senate.
"Feldman reiterated: “If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president. If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasn’t truly impeached at all.”"
And that's their own partisan witness conceding that. The clown show continues.
I heard this too but then I also heard the opposite.
This is such a freak show. It speaks volumes.
Technically not until Nancy turns over the articles to the Senate.
shareRepubs want her to turn the articles over to the Senate as quickly as possible.
Does that mean repubs want him impeached?
Of course they don't want him impeached.
They want this done.
Dems know that even more damage can be done TO THEM at the trial. 🍿
Dems know the trial won't be fair and so do you. It'll be quick and dirty with no testimony from Bolton, Mulvaney, etc. But if she threatens MoscowMitch to hold the articles hostage until after the election, and the Senate turns blue... it will be a whole new ball game. Trump won't just have to worry about impeachment. He'll have to worry about prison time.
share"Dems know the trial won't be fair"
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That's RICH!
MoscowMitch has already admitted he will take ques from the white house. Whatever Trump wants in the trial, he will get. No testimony from Bolton or Mulvaney. The House can't force them to testify, but a senate trial can. They won't have to because Trump will be calling the shots. And you know it which is why you filled your reply with emoticons.
shareI didn't need to explain anything else!
Ok, I'll explain anyway. It's very hypocritical of you to make such a statement after sitting through hours upon hours of hearings and now you want to cry about fairness?!!!
We had no fairness and STILL came out on top.
So don't complain when it bites you in the backside.
We couldn't get key witnesses because Trump ordered them to not testify. Under no circumstances is that fair.
The ones complaining are Trump and repubs for Pelosi outsmarting them by not handing over the articles. They are clutching their pearls saying Pelosi is treating them unfairly.
Umm Republicans were denied everybody requested to testify.
She outsmarted no one. She was pressured to go through with this inquiry! She did not want to because she knew it would backfire. And backfire it did.
Now Democrats can taste the 💩 sandwich they handed Republicans.
"Dems know the trial won't be fair and so do you."
Statement of the Century!
Trump wants a full trial with the ability to finally call his witnesses, and I admit I'd enjoy watching Hunter's drug dealer get grilled by Ted Cruz on national tv while the Bidens sat nervously on either side of him (bring Joe's ass up there in chains if he refuses the subpoena; he doesn't have executive privilege and, for the sake of the country, hopefully never will).
But Republicans are more likely to hear the opening arguments from each side and then quickly vote to dismiss, rather than give the Democrats' partisan farce any legitimacy, which is a reasonable position.
Pelosi, who apparently hadn't gamed this out, didn't like facing the prospect of having their already dubious and counterproductive impeachment effort swiftly smacked down and tossed into the trash can by the full authority of the Senate, ending the three year long impeachment dream with a clear victory for Trump. So she's holding onto it under the guise of waiting for the Senate to agree to Schumer's demands on the trial format, which would continue the House farce as a fishing expedition, except she has no leverage whatsoever. Maybe she figured hanging on to the impeachment bill would somehow preserve her base energy while hurting Trump indefinitely, but it's only making this look even more like the partisan sham it is and accelerating the backlash against Democrats.
She's stuck in a trap of her own making while Republicans are feeling increasingly confident.
Trump wants a full trial with the ability to finally call his witnessesOh I am well aware how Trump wants "his" trial to go. Unfortunately for Trump that's not how a democracy is supposed to work. Pelosi knows MoscowMitch will take queues from the White House. She knew it from the beginning. If she holds the articles up until the election, she could turn the Senate blue. If repubs were so confident none of that will happen, they wouldn't be pushing so hard for her to hand them over. share
Republicans are just rightly criticizing her. What else are they supposed to do? Praise her? Ignore it? If Trump wins reelection it's doubtful the Senate would "go blue". And this whole partisan impeachment abuse of power is not "how democracy is supposed to work".
share"Trump wants a full trial with the ability to finally call his witnesses" is all that needs to be said. You admitted you want Trump to dictate the trial. Pelosi should do everything she can to prevent it. Doing so is putting America first.
shareSure, how dare the defense get a say! Democrats would rather just take their ball and go home when they're not the ones making all the rules and skewing them as much as possible (their Constitutional right...in the House...as they kept boastfully reminding anyone who would listen).
Pelosi should do everything she can to prevent it. Doing so is putting America first.
We get it. You don't want a fair trial. You want it quick and dirty with no testimony from Bolton or Mulvaney. Trump told them to stay away, and so they must. Just bring in Hunter, have him state the exact dollar amount he was paid as a board member of Burisma, and have their vote. Fair trial!
shareThere's nothing to have a trial about. Democrats didn't allege any criminal charges and their own fact witnesses destroyed their narrative. It's too late to pretend you give a flying fuck about fairness after that partisan railroad job in the House.
Democrats repeatedly told everyone that they can run the House impeachment process however they see fit. Well the Senate can run the trial as it sees fit.
Listen , you want hunter Biden ?, then we need Mulvaney, Bolton, Pompeo & off the rail Giuliani
That would damage Trump immeasurably.
That’s what Pelosi is waiting for
Actually I said I'd get a kick out of watching Hunter's drug dealer being grilled by Ted Cruz on national tv as the Bidens sweated on either side of him. Maybe add Hunter's fellow Burisma board member and Joe's golfing buddy Devon Archer to the panel too that day. On another have Eric the fake whistleblower sitting next to the bulging-eyed weasel Adam Schiff so the Senate can thoroughly explore the extent of their relationship and contacts, along with Zaid the "#coup"/"We will get rid of him" lawyer, who orchestrated this train wreck with Schiff.
But no. The Democrats ran a very unfair process and they still only managed to exonerate Trump. There are no charges of actual crimes in their articles for the Senate to try. Only some ridiculous hot air from Nadler (and believe me, boy, no one wants to smell that).
You're dreaming. While calling Mulvaney and the others would set a bad precedent from a separation of powers standpoint, it wouldn't be any more damaging to Trump than what we've already seen, which is the Democrats parading all these "bombshell" witnesses on national tv and Trump's polls and fundraising going up as a result.
“Set a bad precedent”
Your nuts
Your nuts
Beautifully explained, krl!
shareThat's what it sounds like. Either that, or they want to make up the rules as they go along.
shareThey want her to hand them over so they can have their quick and dirty trial the way Trump tells them to. She'll hold them until after the election if she has to.
shareI hope she does! See, if she holds them till after the election - it's a total win for Dems.
1. During the campaign, T-rump can't say he was 'acquitted of impeachment' by the Senate. He will still be the impeached candidate from the House.
2. If the Dems win the Senate next year, and T-rump wins again, she will hand over the impeachment to the new Democratic senate and out he goes next January (2021).
She has all the power in her hands.
Pelosi is holding all the cards now and Trump is squirming.
shareShe's the most powerful player in politics right now. T-rump never saw this coming.
sharePelosi owns Trump. This is obvious with his Twitter tantrums and all his squirming. If Trump isn't removed from office due to his impeachment then we have less than a year before he loses in 2020. Most normal Americans see Trump for the monster he is and with his obvious signs of dementia so they will vote against him. That's my prediction anyway. I just hope I'm right.
shareGeorge Conway has suggested something worth noting about his Friday night Twitter rant:
He proposes that T-rump is doing this to show he's mentally incompetent to take the stand in his own impeachment trial in the Senate.
Tweeted Conway:
"It's as though @realDonaldTrump is trying to establish that he's not mentally competent to stand trial on the articles of impeachment. Too bad for him, though, that there's no legal basis for a mental competence requirement in the impeachment process."
I wouldn't rule this out.
Trump is obviously not mentally competent. Just listen to him when he babbles nonsense at his press conferences and rallies. If my grandfather talked the way Trump does I would take him to the doctor to find out what's wrong with him.
shareWrong. The House and the House alone has the power to impeach. The Senate has nothing to do with it. Trump has been impeached.
And using "The Daily Caller" as a source is laughable.