MovieChat Forums > Politics > complete victory for putin

complete victory for putin


that no one is willing to start ww3 means he can keep doing what he is doing the nukes are not going to start flying at any point

reply

[deleted]

cannot change that the nuclear deter-rant failed to deter anything

reply

If the rumors about Ukraine are true....I'm good with that.

reply

putin's rumors about Ukraine are false

reply

Evidence, please.

reply

your burden to prove them true

reply

he doesn't understand burden of proof. none of the republicans on here seem to.

reply

well, to admit proof is not the same as convincing evidence. wikipedia is evidence but not very convincing

reply

Some ugly things I have heard about Ukraine are definitely not just rumors.

The Wikipedia article on Human Rights in Ukraine states that since 2014, 3 times the number of women have died from domestic abuse than the number of people who have died in the ongoing border conflict. Prior to the current invasion, something like 13,000 people have died. That means 39,000 women have been beaten to death in Ukraine in 8 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Ukraine#cite_note-70

reply

You’re really using domestic violence deaths as a justification for invasion? When in the USA there’s an average of 16,800 domestic violence deaths annually? Add that up over an eight year period and it far exceeds that figure you provided … so I guess based on your logic you think Russia would be justified in invading the US, right?

reply

I beg your pardon? Can you please point out the place in my comment where I said the domestic violence justifies the invasion? No... I didn't think you could.

reply

Bottom line, Ukraine is not a member of NATO and we have no obligation to step in. I'm not willing to die for their freedom and so I would not vote to send others in my stead. If European countries want to step in, that's up to them.

reply

true, which means putin wins, he can do whatever he wants no one will stop him

reply

Not really because we can sanction the Russian oligarchs, causing them to be in far worse shape than before the invasion.

reply

Sanctioning will accomplish nothing but the opposite. You have no idea what you are talking about. Russia and China are working together and are now off the petrodollar. Sanctions will now mean fuck all.

Putin can destroy all the biolabs as far as I'm concerned.

reply

You don't know what you are talking about. China has been hesitant to side with Putin during this whole thing.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-so-far-not-helping-russia-evade-western-sanctions-us-official-2022-02-27/

And how the hell does a functional brain go from China and Russia working together to Putin destroying Chinese biolabs?

It's like you just fantasize these random ideas and drool it out on your keyboard.

reply

Side with them publicly... That article presents no hard evidence of their claims. Also I'm talking about US bio labs in Ukraine dumbass.

It's like you just fantasize these random ideas and drool it out on your keyboard.


Except I was right about literally everything with Covid. The drooling idiot is you. Chinese biolabs....JFC.

reply

The US, UK, Russia and Ukraine did sign the Budapest memorandum in 1994 that gave assurances about respecting territorial boundaries in exchange for Ukraine giving up their nuclear weapons. It's not a treaty but I do think the US and UK should assist Ukraine in their efforts to fight off Russia. It makes the US look bad if we signed this memorandum and then let Ukraine burn.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/12/05/why-care-about-ukraine-and-the-budapest-memorandum/

reply

That expired once Clinton got his photo op.

reply

This didn't age well.

reply