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Into Your Pocketbook California Does It Again!


I totally agree with the premise, doing away with puppy mills. But, why go so far to the left. Oh, I forgot for a second...it’s California! This will cause pet stores to close. Instead of going this drastic route, why not make a common sense law which would require all pet stores to document how and where each animal was obtained? Add to that a requirement the pet store would also have to have shelter animals on site to be adopted. This would definitely put a damper on the horrendous puppy mills! I would shout YAY!

Also, why should I go to a pet store to buy a shelter animal when I can go to the shelter and adopt. Currently I’m looking for a certain small breed dog. I don’t shop at pet stores. I buy from good breeders after visiting the home and interacting with the pets on site. The breed I’m looking for is not readily available at shelters. I have searched rescue groups for the breed to no avail. I’m not able to take an older one who may have health issues. First the expense plus dealing with an ailing husband.

This new law needs to be tweeked to permit pets be sold along with those from shelters.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/569427/california-pet-stores-can-no-longer-use-puppy-mills-according-to-new-law

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Pet sales are a minute source of revenue for pet stores, so I'm not seeing how your argument makes any sense. Which small breed are you looking for?

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If you are correct that “pet sales are a minute source of revenue for pet stores” then I’ve been informed to the facts. But I was mostly referring to the small Mom and Pop pet stores, if there are any left. Large chain stores will survive. If I had a small pet store where I sold pets from decent breeders, then due to a “big government” law.....I would cease having any live animals for sale. None! That would mean shelter pets also. I would not wish to be responsible for some unknown health issues or undesirable traits.

BTW, you could have informed me of the facts without being snarky. FYI, a Yorkshire Terrier.

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Apologies if my tone came off as standoffish. I meant no ill will, just clarifying the meaning of your initial post. My mind isn't exactly the sharpest on New Year's Day.

As Padeen mentioned, you can contact a rescue organization that specializes in terriers, or you might check out an AKC certified breeder in your region. That way you would be able to adopt a pet with a up to date shots and a clean health record.

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“you might check out an AKC certified breeder in your region” This is what I’m currently doing. I’ve outlived so many pets and have grieved so hard in the decisions I’ve had to make. I have rescued and also have got my small house pets from good breeders so I’m aware of how to search.

I’ve purchased the necessary pet supplies. A brand new pink kennel, bumper pads with pillow, a large litter pan & puppy litter, feeding & water set, whelping pads, 2 playpens, toys for chewing, halter with leash, etc. Everything but food. This one will not see a blade of grass...it will be potty trained for indoors.

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So your concern is over a few pet stores closing, instead of being concerned over the welfare and lives of animals.

All this is of course just a thinly veiled excuse to complain about something you decree "Left."

This is luckily nowhere near as bad as that anti-Leftist murder fantasy you posted a few months ago.

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I'm something of an anomaly, being a native Californian and a conservative Republican, but then again, I spent 23 years away from this state before moving back 6 years ago. After observing the stupidity of the elite in Sacramento, I've been able to take away a number traits about how they make laws.

Typically, California politics has never been about the common good. You basically have a little bubble of very rich, very stupid liberal politicians who live in the state capital, and have very little knowledge of how to actually do their jobs. Any time they make state laws, the end result is always to benefit THEM, never the common person.

New environmental law? Don't expect the state to get cleaner and "greener" tech, but you WILL see generous donations from various "green nazi" groups filling up the bank accounts and slush funds those politicians have set up for themselves.

Sanctuary state? Hah! Don't expect life to get better for anyone, not even illegal aliens or homeless. Basically, all those laws do is let them do whatever they want in California's cities (including pooping on the sidewalk and leaving their drug needles and garbage lying everywhere) while it makes the politicians look generous and kind (without any personal sacrifice on their behalf) and they get votes and generous donations from people who don't see the end results of these new laws. Never mind the people whose family members get murdered by illegal aliens, or kids who get sick from stepping on needles in the street on the way to school.

Ban drinking straws? That's not gonna help at all with the giant garbage patches in the ocean. Tell India and East Asia to stop dumping their filth! In fact, it's not gonna do anything but make life difficult for restaurant owners in the state. But it makes the politicians, who have pristine manors and lovely clean lawns, look great to voters and lobby groups.

I could go on, but you get the picture.

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And you have power hungry Nancy Pelosi, the vacuous Maxine Waters, should be put out to pasture Diane Feinstein, the absolute idiotic Eric Swalwell....oh joy! Oh joy!

The banning of of drinking straws is beyond belief considering the human debris living on the streets along with their bodily fluids and needles. All of the aforementioned are living very well while their constituents (mostly Maxine Waters) live in poverty year in and year out!

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I'm amazed we still have a middle class in this state, to be honest. There is such a divide between the rich and the poor it's astounding. The politicians in this state have messed it up so bad, it's a wonder that they haven't had everyone who isn't rich and on welfare move out.

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Also, raging forest fires with many deaths due to the environmental wackos not permitting the cleaning out of dead brush. In other words common sense management of forests. I’m waiting for the day when the giant redwoods start burning; maybe they’ll realize how stupid they were.
Banning drinking straws....that says it all! BTW, does that law affect hospitals, nursing homes, etc.?

Do people realize we had more news coverage about the massive caravan of people attempting to invade the US than coverage of the fire victims?

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I know EXACTLY what you mean! We used to actually have commonsense ways of preventing wildfires, until those fake environmentalists from the city started whining about possibly hurting some obscure animal nobody cared about in the woods. Then, came the bark beetles. Everyone's favorite scapegoat is PG&E when it comes to wildfires, even though it isn't always their power lines causing the fires to start with. I swear, that company's gonna go broke with all the lawsuits people keep throwing at them. They think PG&E is a punching bag/bank they can rob whenever they want!

The banning of drinking straws only really affected certain restaurants, thank God. And somehow, I'm not sure that legislation really passed. We're still getting plastic drinking straws at certain places we eat. Turns out, the statistic the state govt. was using to ban them had been researched by a 10-year-old child who had spoken to TWO garbage companies, instead of a lot of experienced adults doing real field work on the matter.

There are also still many non-mainstream stores that use plastic bags for groceries, although Wal-Mart & Foodmax went crazy and now charge $0.10 per bag you get. Thankfully my mother was experienced with grocery stores from previous states that did that, so we just collected a bunch of bags to use multiple times, and load up the groceries we've bought when we get to the car.

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I'm usually against over regulation, but in this case, I applaud the law. Roughly 1.2 million dogs are euthanized each year. Why not adopt and save a life instead of buying from a breeder?

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As I wrote I can only have a small breed. Please read my post again which explains why I cannot adopt.

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There's plenty of small dogs available at animal shelters. In my opinion, its selfish not to adopt just because you want a specific breed. I wanted a German Shepherd, so I did the next best thing and adopted a shepherd mix at my local animal shelter. If your dead seat on a Yorkshire Terrier, at least try to find a Rescue Organization.

https://www.yorkierescue.com/need.html

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OMGosh....did you not read my post where I wrote I had searched rescue groups! There are not “plenty of small dogs available” at our shelter. IMO, it’s selfish to adopt a dog that requires more care than we can give. I have saved dogs in the past, but in my final years (the little thing will outlive my ailing husband and probably me) I want a low maintenance little dog not over 5 lbs.

To repeat I cannot afford to take an ailing or an older dog at this time. Don’t equate my homelife with yours!

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As someone who has volunteered at many shelters in his life, yes there are plenty of small, young dogs available for adoption. If you look hard enough, you will have no problem finding one.

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Rarely...at our wonderful shelter. There are not “plenty of small, young dogs” (small breed) at our climate controlled shelter. About two years ago many yorkies were confiscated from a horrible breeder. Most had to have medical care to prepare for adoption; some had to be put down.😢 By the time I got wind of the situation all had been spoken for. I drove to the shelter to confirm, yes, was the reply. I informed them I was looking for a small breed dog. “We don’t get that many, but when we do they are gone the same day.”

So, Padeen, even though you have volunteered at many shelters in life, you aren’t aware of the situations at all shelters in the country. In the past I’ve offered to foster, so please Padeen...let me be! You don’t know my circumstances so quit preaching to me!

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You don’t know my circumstances so quit preaching to me!

Your entire topic is you preaching about circumstances you don't know.

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People want specific breeds, so they go to someone who specializes.

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Big difference between want and need. I wanted a German Shepherd, but I knew adopting was the right thing to do, so I eventually found a Shepherd Mix at an animal shelter.

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Yeah, see you have a heart.

The OP just has a "want" and a strong political bias that motivates her to complain about anything perceived as "Left."

This topic actually has nothing to do with dogs or dog-related laws, basically.

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No kidding. The OP said

I buy from good breeders after visiting the home and interacting with the pets on site.
So how is that the same as going to a pet store? The article even states that a person can still buy directly from breeders, so this law shouldn't apply to them.

Also, it seems from what they are saying that they don't just want any small dog, they want a specific breed of small dog, so I ask, isn't that elite in itself? They don't want a dog that they have to take care of and they are going to die before the dog, so if no one else in the family wants it the dog will end up in a shelter. Again, isn't that something of privilege?

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yes, yes it is privilege.

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Just in case you haven’t checked out this site yet:

http://www.rescueme.org

Best of luck with your search. Some lucky dog will have a great new home!

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Thanks much, but none in my state. Before we moved from Florida I applied to adopt a yorkie from a strict rescue group. I not only had to fill out papers I had to write a letter as to why I wanted to adopt. I swear I thought I was applying to adopt a child. I had to agree to home visits before & after! I zeroed in on a precious little one named Molly. I had recently lost my little Mollie who died in my hand. It was meant to be...me finding another precious Molly.

I explained everything in the letter and our planned move within the coming year. I was denied due to me moving out of state so therefore I wouldn’t be available for the home visits during the next year. I had poured my heart out to those people, was honest in every way. I explained how I took care of my little male who had to wear newborn diapers. When he messed I washed and dried his little behind, I layed him on his back as you would a baby, powdered him, then diapered him again. He was my baby. No one would have taken better care of my little ones and they denied me!

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That is so sad. I understand and appreciate their caution, but at some point it becomes a little ridiculous. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

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