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Are you fascinated by Titanic?

posted 4 years ago by 10200 (656)
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No, not the movie - the actual historical ship and event. I've been fascinated with the ship since I was young - it had nothing to do with the movie. It was just on TV that a salvage company wants to cut into the ship's haul and retrieve the Marconi telegraph that transmitted the very first SOS in history. The ship is quickly deteriorating and within the next 100 year it will only be a pile of rust. I believe in preserving history and am pro retrieving artifacts from the wreck. It's been over 100 years since the ship sank and I don't believe it's desecrating a grave by removing anything from the ship.

[–] MovieManCin2 (26342) 4 years ago

Yes! I've been fascinated by it ever since I saw the film A Night To Remember. And I'm okay with removing items because, as you say, it will eventually be just a pile of rust.

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[–] Eric56 (4580) 4 years ago

I enjoyed that version WAY better than the James Cameron version. JC version was clearly a remake of ANTR. The only big difference was that in ANTR they didn't show the ship split in half but that is because they didn't discover the wreck until 1985 so you can't fault them for that scene.

[–] MovieManCin2 (26342) 4 years ago

I agree completely.

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[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

That's interesting, I thought there were plenty of people in lifeboats watching as it sank, I would have assumed they saw and reported the boat splitting in half.

[–] 10200 (656) 4 years ago

Some people did report that it split. Remember it was a moonless night so it was very dark and difficult to see.

[–] Eric56 (4580) 4 years ago

Yeah well, eyewitness accounts are notoriously inaccurate; hence, the high rate of wrongful convictions.

[–] Eric56 (4580) 4 years ago

Have you seen the move "A Night To Remember" from the 1950s? I personally enjoyed that one more than the 1997 James Cameron version. In fact, if you watch both movies, you will see that James Cameron was clearly influenced by "Night To Remember". The 1997 version was obviously a remake of the 1950's version. The big difference is that the 50s version didn't show the ship split in half. But that is because they didn't discover the wreck until 1985 so you can't fault them for that.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

There was a German film from 1943 which is said to have heavily influenced James Cameron as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iYcVSwWj3s

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Not really. Egotistical greedy people cut costs and didn't want to divert their course and slow the journey.

Cue hitting an iceberg and people dying due to shortage of lifeboats.

The end.

[–] 10200 (656) 4 years ago

The shortage of lifeboats really wasn't a cost cutting measure. The builders thought extra life boats would spoil the lines of the ship and block the views from the public decks. Titanic followed the established requirements for lifeboats, which was not simply enough boats for every person - all ships used the same formula.

Egotistical - yes - Smith wanted to break the record for an Atlantic crossing and stayed farther north to accomplish that.

[–] movieace11 (1304) 4 years ago

I am fascinated by maritime and aviation disasters. There's something very creepy about sinking to the ocean bottom / falling out of the sky.

[–] hotsummerday (93) 4 years ago

I am interested in Titanic. There is a book with Titanic survivors testimonies ' about what really happening that.night and they all say they saw the boat broke in half in 1912.However, most people heard about the boat broke in half thought trauma distort their view--they refused accept it until Ballast proved it about 1985.

Caution-- the book is very graphic especially the cook's testimony about the little crying boy's death despite his efforts to save the little boy until the wave sweep off the boat into icy sea has haunting me for years

I can't recall the title right now, but I am sure the Internet has it.

[–] PaladinNJ (20707) 4 years ago

Are you thinking of Titanic on Trial by Compton?

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12898) 4 years ago

Only briefly for a few years after James Cameron's movie came out, but then I got bored and moved onto other things.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

I don't think they're desecrating anything by removing artifacts, either.

It's what's usually done with wrecks and ruins. I can't remember anyone ever having a problem with it, except in the case of the Titanic. Maybe people are bothered because they feel more of an emotional connection to that wreck because of all the stories and news coverage of the sinking.? Those artifacts are just going to rot if they leave them there, though. They have some historical significance, and I think that'd be a shame.

[–] jonathan_k80 (6436) 4 years ago

I think a lot of the objection to the retrieval of artifacts was due to the fact that some Titanic survivors were still alive in 1985, along with others who had lost family members in the disaster. Even though 73 years had passed between the sinking and the discovery of the wreck, the tragedy was still recent enough in the minds of some people to the point where this idea would be disturbing.

[–] TheAdlerian (2092) 4 years ago

I was interested in it as a description of human folly.

People knew it wasn't safe but they ignored that. They went sailing for no reason where there's icebergs, and lots of people died while trying to have a good time where they don't need to be.

Typical human nonsense.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 4 years ago

The same with people dying on Everest. I mean, what was the need to climb Everest really? It's just something you can brag about. That's it. And when they failed and died suddenly it's "the worst disaster," "innocent people are dying," and how brave they are depictes in movies. Well, duh. How about NOT climbing it in the first place?

[–] TheAdlerian (2092) 4 years ago

My favorite psychologist is Alfred Adler.

I brought up mountain climbers as a type of person who sets up a unnecessary personal challenge and then congratulates themselves for it, when it's not actually an achievement. He pointed out that such people are super selfish. They will worry their loved ones and put others in danger, say rescue people, so they can pat themselves on the back over nothing.

There's lots of people like that.

I tend to avoid dangerous activity for that reason.

I have known lots of drug addicts like that. They are some of the worst.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 4 years ago

Exactly!

[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 4 years ago

Hell yes, well before the movie came out