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Why do people think the 2000s are indistinct compared to other decades?


I was on the thread about early 2000s fashions and it got me thinking about how a lot of people seem to see the 2000s in general as undistinctive in terms of fashion, music, and aesthetics compared to previous decades. I've heard this sentiment often. Just last night, I was listening to a podcast where the speakers were bemoaning how the 2000s is "the same" as 2022 in terms of fashion and pop culture.

Maybe it's because I came of age in the 2000s, but I've felt the decade has quite a distinct look. Crocs, wristbands, emo fashions (I was unfortunately a victim of this when I was a teen), spiked hair. Heck, the other day I was listening to the bands I liked in high school and even they sound quite different from what dominates the radio stations or my youngest sister's Spotify playlist today. To me, there's quite a bit of difference. Hell, we already have movies set in that time period like Ladybird and Turning Red.

It may not be as dramatic as a difference as say between the 1980s and 1990s, but I feel it's still very much different.

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There doesn't seem to be much that stands out after 1999. What do I think of to describe the 2000s...hmm. The EMO thing did get really big, rap music took off more, and social media apps. That's all I got😊

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I disagree with those podcasters.

I think the ‘decade thing’ makes for good mile posts but each decade influences and bleeds into the next to a degree.

As for some examples of obvious
cultural happenings here in The States hippies didn’t go away with the 60s, Disco didn’t die with the 70s and Greedy Wall Street raiders didn’t go extinct at the end of the 80s, etc.

Besides, they say ‘everything old is new again,’ so the 2000s will probably have a nostalgia-boost soon enough. Hang in there👍

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20 YEARS OLD EQUALS VINTAGE...ALREADY A FEW OF THOSE EARLY 2000 YEARS QUALIFY.

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I suspect it's a combination of two things: 1) those opinions are probably mostly coming from people who came of age earlier than you -- perhaps considerably earlier than you in some cases -- and are simply not as tuned into pop culture as they once were...

... and 2) the rise of the internet has changed both perceptions and, to an extent, the reality of how fashion trends shift over time. Used to be that you'd have gatekeepers on these things -- magazines, TV shows, &c -- and now (to coin a phrase:) everything is everywhere all at once.

There are still trends, of course, but everything is a bit more niche and compartmentalised now -- so you don't necessarily encounter them so easily.

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It's a gradient and there needs to be distance to look back and see the trends which stand out and culturally hold strong as motifs of their period. The closer you are to the periods the more of a blur it is.

People who say the early 00s was the same as today are clowns. Back then nu-metal was huge, the fashion was different (go watch a number of films from 2000-2005 to see the different clothing and hairstyles), the internet was only starting to take off and cultural attitudes differed.

It's not uncommon to see dude-bro comedy films from that time period full of 'homophobic' content for example. Scary Movie (2000) was a huge hit, accounting for inflation it made nearly half a billion, no way a spoof film could gross that much these days...not to mention contain blatant 'transphobic' humor.

Another thing is that people love their easily defined cut off points. The year 2000 saw not only a new decade but a new century and millennium. People cling to it as an easy old-slash-new cut off point. It's sometimes a shock to people to realize that films released in 2002 are now 20 years old. Two full decades. It's simple math, but some people see the 00s as yesteryear and struggle accepting the passage of time.

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2000 was the final year of the 20th century, which began with 2001. Yes, everybody got it wrong. Our calendar started with the year 1, not the year 0.

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Yes, yes. Everybody, EVERYBODY IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE got it wrong. Except you, you're always 1000% right, O the mighty R_Kane!

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I understand where the argument you have presented, because there is always a debate when we reach a new decade. I know that historians went from 1 BC to 1 AD, so I fully get your point. I just think that since we changed calendars to 12 months only in 1752, and we only switched to the Gregorian in 1582 because the Julian calendar was out of sync, I don't really know if I trust that we are actually in 2022.

I guess what I'm saying is that we may be off by months, or even longer because of these changes, so does it really make a difference if someone decides to say that the 80s are 1980-1989? I think because we do our own ages by decades and because we did start at zero, it seems natural to do calendar years the same way.

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Human age count begins at birth. We are 1 year old 1 year after we are born. On our first birthday, we begin our second year of life. I have often sent loved ones a birthday salutation wishing her/him “a wonderful [upcoming year] of life,” which usually calls for a follow up message saying something like, “You just turned 34. So you are in your 35th year of life.”

This matters to me because precision, accuracy and logic matter to me. I see us as living in a world of thoughtlessness and facile pop culture, and I do not see any reason for it. It costs no more to be educated, scholarly and precise than it does to be populist and ignorant; but populism FEELS warm, so thence the sheep, bleating, gravitate.

YOU are not a sheep.

I respect and honor your reply, as ever. I don’t think you and I will ever actually disagree on anything.

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Agreed, the 2000s are just too soon for the defining factors to be codified. I remember when the 80s were the decade that fashion forgot and the music died - nowadays people seem endlessly nostalgic about the period (that personally I still think was mostly pretty naff). I suspect it's largely because the folks now making the films and writing the book were the ones that grew up in the 80s.

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I became of age in the 80s and I always wanted to ask people younger than me if there was a distinct difference in the music between the 2000s and 2010s.

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Very different. Music in 2000s is dominated by bands (Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Green Day, Arctic Monkeys, MyCR, Hoobastank, Simple Plan, etc.) while in 2010s almost all music were EDM.

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Maybe because I'm young but 2000s look SOOOOO dated to me.

Bright colored clothes, girls with highlights, weird cell phones, iPods.

The sense of humor seemed to be saying outrageous, shocking things.

Yeah, totally different vibe.

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Oh yeah the phones! So much design and function change from 2000 and 2010!

People wore those huge baggy pants in the 2000's and corderoy was big, and overalls! 2010 was the move to skinny jeans and the capri pants had like a wave.

Green Day was playing all the time I feel like, I liked Snow Patrol and Coldplay but 2010 had the vibe of Gorillaz and the Artic Monkeys less grungy than the 2000's more experimental, though my personal tastes haven't changed, that was pop culture.

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I missed the creativity and ingenious designs of mid to late 2000s phones. Nowadays, it's all just a rectangle with a touchscreen.

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True. The early 2000s was distinctive. Late 2000s might have blurred into 2010s and 2020s.

PS. I was an emo too. But mom was right, it was just a phase.

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The 2000s were nothing like the 2010s or 2020s, not by a long shot. While the clothing is hard to place, the music, pop culture, and look of the era is actually more distinct compared to the later decades than a lot of people realize. I think what the younger crowd can't understand, is that the late 90s still had a subtle hold on the way people did things for the first few years of that decade.

I remember quite a few interesting fashion fads from that era. Toned-down bell-bottom, hip-hugging jeans, cargo pants, platform shoes (not as tall as in the actual 70s, but noticeable), highlights in the hair, tiny butterfly hairclips worn like headbands in the hair, tattoo necklaces, cat's eye bracelets, belly shirts, velour jogging suits...

I distinctly remember a minor trend towards Asian fashions. Some of the girls liked to put their hair up in single or twin buns with colorful, plastic chopsticks stuck in. Some of the shirts people wore were sewn to look like they were folded like kimonos. Chinese dresses and tops could be seen once in a while too.

The Goth look really took off and became more noticeable in everyday life.

Wedding/prom gowns from that era were much more figure-flattering than the chunky, sheer, retro 50s/60s styles we see today. The strapless, poofy look with either no waistline, or the bodice extended to the lower waist was common in that time period.

I miss the movies, tv shows, and music we had back then. It was better than what we have today, no joke.

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Chinese dresses and tops could be seen once in a while too.

It's a time before 'cultural appropriation.'

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